you have to log into the netflix account and set it off auto for each sub account
ours was 512k max. maybe resolution on a tv would have been pixelated we did our verifications from PC On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:25 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting. > > On 1/23/2020 4:23 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > The cell carriers have caching servers installed so they can > > manipulate the traffic. We are working on doing something similar... > > but so far every MikroTik consultant I've hired has screwed me on this. > > > > On 1/23/20 4:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> If I recall correctly, they have lower quality levels for mobile > >> users on 4G. I wonder how they know you're mobile and whether you > >> can trick the system into counting your user as mobile. > >> > >> > >> On 1/23/2020 4:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > >>> Yeah, last I looked that's what they said the lowest quality needed. > >>> A few years back I did some testing with various speeds, and I think > >>> I got down to somewhere around 500k before Netflix would break. But > >>> even then, the picture quality was getting pretty ugly. > >>> > >>> But seriously... if Netflix defaulted to lower quality (not lowest, > >>> but in the middle), and made you set it higher if you wanted, most > >>> people would never know or care... and it'd save a lot of bandwidth. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:14 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm pretty sure the lowest quality level on Netflix needs 0.7 > >>> mbps. If your rule ended up giving them 256k+512k then it would > >>> have worked. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 1/23/2020 4:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >>>> Way back in the day, when powercode had the old type queue, we > >>>> built our basic one to buffer at 512 long enough to maintain a 2 > >>>> hour sd stream at 256k with periodic 512k bucket refills. so > >>>> really it was 512k effectively. It may very vell be that > >>>> expectations of "standard" definition were different back then. > >>>> but I thought that was an actual resolution standard > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:58 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I don’t remember ever being able to stream Netflix on 256K. > >>>> 1M maybe, and 1.5M still gives you decent SD. You’re going > >>>> to need at least 2.5M though for HD. So that’s one part of > >>>> the answer is HD. Some streaming services, like DirecTV On > >>>> Demand, don’t have adaptive video quality and want a minimum > >>>> of 5M to stream. Another factor is “live” video, which is > >>>> compressed on-the-fly and probably not as efficiently as > >>>> pre-recorded content. > >>>> > >>>> Of course, if the customer has more, video streams will > >>>> happily use it. > >>>> > >>>> *From:* AF <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM > >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future > >>>> > >>>> we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I > >>>> started 15 or so years ago, we were just moving off a > >>>> handdful of random T1s to a bonded 6mb circuit backhauling > >>>> that was nothing. Now we have two gig circuits on separate > >>>> parts of our network, and we are a tiny WISP in podunk USA.. > >>>> We dont put less than 1.2gbps backhauls in for core backhauls > >>>> now. The existing technology for distance in a single unit us > >>>> roughly 2gbps when trying to cover any distance of merit. > >>>> Sure you can do more than that, you can cheat outside link > >>>> budgets and ignore your rain region. But if youre talking > >>>> about most temperate region backhauls with legitimate > >>>> reliability thats the wall. > >>>> > >>>> we keep poking a little more bits/hz out, but that not really > >>>> new tech, its all dependent upon smaller and smaller path > >>>> budgets, that eventually wont be attainable. so you have to > >>>> start doing shorter shots, with more radios, more channel > >>>> size, etc. eventually you hit the point where its no longer > >>>> economically viable to keep throwing radio and lease costs at > >>>> it and youll have to put glass in the dirt. > >>>> > >>>> Duct is whats future proof, fiber is just the current best > >>>> long term option for transport. pending some breakthrough > >>>> tech, its the only real long term cost effective future > >>>> proofish option. > >>>> > >>>> We will hit a wall on demand at some point in the near term > >>>> as we run out of things to connect. > >>>> > >>>> Can anybody answer why 256k used to be able to deliver a > >>>> decent SD netflix stream and now i need multiple mbps for the > >>>> same thing? asking for a friend > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 1:40 PM Carl Peterson > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "Elon started it as a project to raise money, yes. Morgan > >>>> Stanley is up valuing it because they don't understand > >>>> technology. This project is not even close to spacex's > >>>> purpose for existing. If it disappeared it would not have > >>>> any real effect on their overall mission." > >>>> > >>>> This isn't really true. There was one primary driver. > >>>> > >>>> 1) You need to bring down the cost of launch considerably > >>>> in order to expand the launch market to a size where > >>>> developing and maintaining a reusable rocket fleet makes > >>>> sense but you can't bring down the cost of launch till > >>>> you have customers to fill the launch manifest and that > >>>> spool up will take years. SpaceX thinks they have solved > >>>> this by becoming their own customer for all their extra > >>>> launch capacity for the foreseeable future. > >>>> > >>>> When they looked at #1 above they realized that there was > >>>> a huge potential market there and even a a few % of the > >>>> global internet market could be a cash cow for years to > >>>> come. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:13 PM Jason McKemie > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Elon started it as a project to raise money, yes. > >>>> Morgan Stanley is up valuing it because they don't > >>>> understand technology. This project is not even close > >>>> to spacex's purpose for existing. If it disappeared > >>>> it would not have any real effect on their overall > >>>> mission. > >>>> > >>>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Robert > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> um, no, Starlink is now becoming the primary > >>>> reason for the huge run-up in valuation for > >>>> SpaceX... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-future-multibillion-dollar-valuation-starlink-internet-morgan-stanley-2019-9 > >>>> > >>>> On 1/21/20 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The difference being that this is a side > >>>> project for one of the main businesses, not > >>>> their primary purpose. At best I don't think > >>>> this is going to be anything besides a better > >>>> alternative to other satellite internet > >>>> options. > >>>> > >>>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Guys, lots of misinformation here. > >>>> > >>>> They are NO plans nor hints of > >>>> integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla > >>>> cars. It may happen but no one has hinted > >>>> of this happening. All Tesla's have 3G or > >>>> 4G modems already built-in to them along > >>>> with WiFi. Updates are sent via WiFi > >>>> first and after the fleet has received > >>>> the updates, they eventually push it to > >>>> cars via cellular data that haven't > >>>> updated via WiFi. > >>>> > >>>> Regarding B2B backhaul, I don't believe > >>>> you'll see this as an option anytime soon > >>>> for WISP's or other ISP's. They're > >>>> targeting residential and small > >>>> businesses as well as > >>>> government contracts. The cost if they > >>>> did offer B2B backhaul services would > >>>> likely be higher than fiber to your > >>>> network. Please stop thinking this will > >>>> happen as I bet it will not. > >>>> > >>>> They may offer a self install option but > >>>> they'll also have a contractor to perform > >>>> most installs for a cost is my guess. > >>>> Maybe they'll send a self install kit for > >>>> X price and if you can't get it working, > >>>> they'll schedule a contract install for > >>>> XX price. > >>>> > >>>> I'll also say that you should not doubt > >>>> Elon's passion to achieve great things. I > >>>> have a Tesla and it's a work of art and > >>>> by far the best vehicle I've ever driven. > >>>> 99% of people who have driven one also > >>>> think this. Tesla is succeeding, SpaceX > >>>> is on it's way there, The Boring Company > >>>> is half done with their Vegas tunnel, and > >>>> Starlink will likely be a viable > >>>> competitor for us. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ryan Ray > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Can you link that? What exactly were > >>>> they testing? > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM > >>>> Robert Andrews > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Somehow they passed a first > >>>> review from US DOD... Can't be > >>>> all smoke > >>>> and mirrors in space... > >>>> > >>>> On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > I'm still very wary of this. > >>>> There seems to be a lot of > >>>> over-promising > >>>> > under delivering. In typical > >>>> Elon fashion, no details but the > >>>> world runs > >>>> > with it and puts out all these > >>>> data models that make it seem > >>>> like the > >>>> > second coming of christ. > >>>> Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo > >>>> <$200 and they > >>>> > are starting in 2020, but > >>>> there's no pictures or details. > >>>> How is that > >>>> > even possible? We're buying > >>>> 450b at a more expensive cost and > >>>> there > >>>> > ain't no phased antenna with > >>>> motors in it. > >>>> > > >>>> > Then all you read online is the > >>>> cult following of spaceslax who > >>>> takes a > >>>> > twitter post as gospel and just > >>>> keeps perpetuating the same tired > >>>> > information. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 > >>>> AM Bill Prince > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> > <mailto:[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > If the SpaceX Starlink > >>>> system works at 50% of what it's > >>>> hyped, it will > >>>> > become the future of rural > >>>> internet. Urban is still going > >>>> to be > >>>> > dominated (eventually) by > >>>> fiber for the foreseeable future. > >>>> Higher > >>>> > speed > >>>> > wireless will be very, very > >>>> local. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > bp > >>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >>>> > > >>>> > On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt > >>>> Hoppes wrote: > >>>> > > I don’t know why, but > >>>> this evening got me thinking about > >>>> > broadband delivery over the > >>>> past 30 years and the future of > >>>> broadband. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > First we had nothing, > >>>> then along came dial-up and > >>>> that was > >>>> > amazing and many companies > >>>> sprung up offering the service. > >>>> Giants > >>>> > like AOL and Prodigy. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Then DSL and Cable came > >>>> along as well as wireless and > >>>> dial-up has > >>>> > all but died. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Now DSL is basically > >>>> dead, cable and wireless have > >>>> gone through > >>>> > several iterations and we > >>>> are seeing a push to fiber. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > What’s the possibility > >>>> in the next 10 years cable and > >>>> wireless > >>>> > will be dead technologies > >>>> with fiber at the fore front? > >>>> Possibly. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > But then..... is fiber > >>>> really future proof? We are > >>>> talking about > >>>> > investing hundreds of > >>>> millions into fiber > >>>> infrastructure, because > >>>> > it’s “the future”. 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