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-----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 1:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MUSK and CAF/USDA That makes sense. Sort of how we bank roll a lot of what we do. Does it make sense? Not always. But $10,000 into this site here brings a higher and more stable return than I would get with that 10k in the stock market. > On Feb 1, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote: > > It all depends on the business model. If you look at it as having to pay back > the capital through a loan, then yes the payback looks like a long time. If > however you already have the money and don't need to borrow it, then the > money made is just like interest or dividends on money you already have. The > goal may be to make more than you would in basic investing in the market or > banks. Totally changes the required profit margins in those situations. The > other aspect of looking at the business model, not just as an internet > provider. Having access to all of that data about internet use, possibly > worldwide, will have its own value and/or profit center when it comes to the > Artificial Intelligence world. Factor in other things like ad revenue > opportunities, the possibility of being a Voice carrier, etc. you can see the > potential for revenue in more than just internet access service. Most WISPs > don't get too excited about all of that because as a whole, their internet > user base isn't large enough to be a critical mass that really makes that > data valuable (meaning having large enough sample sizes). Controlling that > last mile access to the consumer is important for a lot of content providers. > The fear of that last mile control by so few was one of the catalysts of the > net neutrality act. The fear that too much control over last mile access was > going to stifle innovation. His network becoming another option can be a big > difference for some other content providers and they may pay good money to > have that access. Let's also not discount revenue opportunities from the > likes of the CIA to get access to countries for the masses where there may be > an oppressive regime and the USA wants to practice some of their nation > building skills. DOD contracts are likely in part of the plan as well. > There are always interesting cases for a customer base when you have an > almost seamless worldwide network you can sell services from. > > > As an old investment banker said to me as a teenager, the first million is > the hardest to make...... > > Thank you, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 2:18 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MUSK and CAF/USDA > > So for the same reason the small ISPs don’t go after the funds also he > doesn’t. Interesting when you think of it that way. > > It’s also interesting when you stop to think of those costs. What’s the > return on that? 100 years? > > I’m curious to see where this will end considering continual launches will > need to take place to continue to maintain the network. > >> On Feb 1, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think the CAF thing is more overhead than they (he?) is willing to put up >> with. >> >> Think about what he's spent already. Estimate $30 million per launch (that >> is just spitting into the wind, but anyway). Four launches already is $120 >> million. The cost to develop and build a few thousand satellites? Maybe >> another $100 million (so far). The cost to develop and build millions of end >> user terminals? >> >> There has to be the better part of a billion dollars invested so far. A few >> paltry million plus the strings attached would just seem silly. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> On 2/1/2020 9:44 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>> I had a random thought this afternoon. >>> >>> If Musk is so certain about StarLink and the fact that it will cover >>> everywhere - why hasn’t he applied for USDA funding? Literally millions >>> available. >>> >>> Maybe he doesn’t need it? >>> Maybe it won’t work as well as it’s being hyped? >>> Maybe he has an alternative motive? >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
