China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United States. We have become complacent.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles -----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) Hi Timothy! I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking). Since the person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most seriously sick. Is this really just another flu strain though? It's a corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu. Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets), which means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater than the common cold/flu. This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately. On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote: > I'm living in asia right now (philippines) > > they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe > what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing > > we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary > > when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for > domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get > on the flight > > resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you > walk in even if just to eat inside > > if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas like whale watching you > have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have > the virus > > in bohol nurses are getting infected > > U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal > bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the > hospital > > as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china > hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over > > > I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared > of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young > > if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with > this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and > infect you > > in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources > are so high there is nothing to really worry about there > > > but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't > have proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to > live with grandparents that can easily get sick and the flu is not > common here as its always hot so the immune system is not really ready > for it > > it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an > issue in the U.S > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef jerky, > only... different. > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: > > That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as > opposed to what I expected from the headline. Still > creepy.____ > > __ __ > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)____ > > __ __ > > This is concerning > > https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird > s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/____ > > __ __ > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun > <sleb...@corebroadband.ca <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>> > wrote:____ > > A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) > > I used to think I was a cynic. Some people are an order of > magnitude > more cynical than me. > > > On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic. So I > essentially ignore all that stuff. Life is too short. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett > <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally > everything is a "conspiracy". > >> > >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and > nobody has the whole picture of what happened until more > time passes. In the interim there's a lot of conflicting > information going around. People latch onto early bits of > information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go > of them. > >> > >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press > from Hong Kong > >> > >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a > trade war > >> > >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit > Mexican Lager (I mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?) > >> > >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our > survival bunkers. > >> > >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus. > Really? Or maybe they just don't have a live real-time > omniscient feed of all information so they're reporting what > they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe rumors on > Facebook aren't all true. > >> > >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. > >> > >> > >> > >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic. > >>> > >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. > >>> > >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a > dozen actual infections. I am still thinking this is not a > big deal. 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