Ok, those are good options.

A bit more expensive, but probably better to get a larger gen.

I like how Kohler still has a catch phrase, “Bold new Kohler design…” lol

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
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These are 12Kw and look to be smaller than the Generac?

https://www.nationwidegenerators.com/briggs-stratton-40517-12kw-generator/

https://www.nationwidegenerators.com/kohler-12resv-120-240v-1ph-generator-with-oncue-generator-management-system/



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 3:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office

Good points.

Still, need a small form factor due to the building owner being obtuse about 
having a Gen on the back sidewalk.

So I’ll just wire the rack and maybe the lights for now and test it out.

3kw real output should cover those.

Also, I don’t want to have to excessively re-run my gas line to the unit, so 
the smaller NG gen the better and hopefully use the existing line given I’m not 
going to power the heat unit from NG at the same time the gen is on.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office

If your HVAC is 240 then you have more HVAC load than that generator can pull 
on just that one load.

40 amps x 240 Volts is 9600 Watts.

7.5 kW generac will only deliver 31 amps at 240 VAC  And you really don’t want 
to load a generator up that much.  50% is a good derating factor.  Also,  
generators publish their power output at sea level.

Knock off 3% for every 1000’ above sea level and 2% for every 10 degrees above 
70 degrees F
Rounding up, you are close to 5000’ so that is 15% lost for altitude and in the 
summer at 110 degrees that is another 8%.
So you lose as much as 23% of capacity  on a hot summer day.  Worse if you 
power it from natural gas.

I would add up all your loads, add 50% for growth then double that figure for 
not loading the generator too much and to account for derating.

The installation is the expensive part.  Don’t scrimp on kW at this stage of 
the game.  Sounds to me like you need a 20 kW or more depending on your true 
HVAC loads.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 6:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Generator for office

I need a smaller footprint generator for my 1300 sqr foot office.

Was thinking of getting the 50A 7.5KW Generac 6998 for $2050.00 that includes 
the 50A transfer switch.

I think my breakers has several 20A switches and 40A for the HVAC.

Not sure if this would cover the power needed for the whole unit, or just the 
fiber cabinet/rack I have that has max 20A circuit to it?

The next highest power draw is probably the HVAC and/or water heater.

The lights only draw about 500W since I switched them all to LED.


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