Great movie...watch the trailer...see anything familiar?
https://youtu.be/TL3LXKanzds

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 3:45 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds like the Andromeda Strain to me.   Anyone got any squeeze to drink?
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 2:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
>
> There is an antibody test now available and a lab in town here doing it.
> Priority is given to first responders, and it's already a month out.
> However, I read an article yesterday that had lots of info on how the virus
> acts and they were saying ventilators may be making it worse. Apparently,
> the virus latches on to the heme in your hemoglobin in your red cells,
> disassociating the toxic oxidative iron ion that attracts the O2. This
> prevents O2 from bonding to the red blood cells. To make matters worse, it
> is a permanent condition and the only fix is generating or introducing new
> red blood cells that can carry oxygen. Your kidneys start producing
> erythropoietin which tells your bone marrow to start ramping up production.
> That toxic iron now running around overwhelms the epithelial surface of the
> lungs which usually takes care of this stuff when it occurs naturally. This
> leads to damage and inflammation in the lungs, not pneumonia. So, now your
> liver kicks up its iron storage capability but soon gets overwhelmed and
> starts releasing ALT which is a cry for help. At that point, it is almost
> too late. If you bone marrow can't produce new red cells faster than the
> virus attacks them, it's all over. No amount of forcing air into the lungs
> will help. Providing pure oxygen like in a hyperbaric chamber may, but
> direct blood transfusions with healthy red cells is the best chance as
> there are not a lot of  hyperbaric chambers around. So, Hydroxychloroquine
> works the same way it does on malaria (which by the way attacks hemoglobin
> as well), by preventing the virus from attaching to the hemoglobin. It also
> lowers the blood pH helping to stop the replication of the virus. If you
> can keep your cells carrying oxygen and slow down virus replication, Your
> body can probably handle the rest.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:15 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What everyone tries not to talk about is there’s evidently not that much
>> a hospital can do.  If you just need IV fluids and oxygen, sure.  But if
>> you need one of those ventilators, the prognosis is grim.  It sounds like
>> the survival rate for people who are intubated is somewhere in the 20 to
>> 40% range.
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously if the hospitals get overrun, now you get Italy, where the
>> mortality fate even for non-Covid cases skyrockets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m agreeing with you here, but we’re buying time until (a) universal
>> testing (b) testing to see who has recovered and has at least temporary
>> immunity, (c) new therapies being tested that could be more effective than
>> ventilators, and (d) a vaccine.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, the TV news was just talking about Los Angeles where businesses can
>> now refuse to serve people not wearing masks, to protect frontline workers
>> in essential businesses.  Reporter in the field said he observed people
>> talking loudly about people NOT wearing masks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robert
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:46 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
>>
>>
>>
>> We drove 1.5 hrs to a town with no reported infections ( yeah lot of bs
>> that is ) and were shopping is a safeway for 15 minutes, the safeway had
>> all the precautions and people wiping stuff down.   Then some lady without
>> a mask ( this is in California where masks are supposed to be required )
>> started hacking up a lung right by the checkout counters, 1/2 way into her
>> bare elbow.   It was pretty obvious that this wasn't an ordinary coughing
>> fit.  We were all decked out in PPE but that drove home decontaminating
>> when we got home.  But the wife doesn't get it.  8/10's isn't good
>> enough.   We are going to come down with it somewhere along the line.  It's
>> certain.  Just hope it is after the hospitals are past the worst point so
>> that we can get taken care of instead of triaged.  So I will stay away and
>> hope that I don't get someone else sick...
>>
>> On 4/7/20 7:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>> No, sorry.  The redneck and his woman were not wearing masks.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Matt Hoppes
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:11 PM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
>>
>>
>>
>> Very confused by this story. Other people wearing masks made fun of you
>> wearing a mask?
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Put on gloves and a mask to pick up a few things at the grocery store.
>> Walked in and there was a construction worker in a mask, then a soccer
>> mom.... then a skinny redneck, with his skinny redneck wife.  Started
>> clucking like a chicken when he saw me and his wife was taking a video.
>> Was not quite calling me a chicken loud enough that I could clearly make
>> out exactly what he was doing, but was grandstanding for his skanky
>> woman....
>>
>>
>>
>> Funny how fast my natural pugilistic nature of my youth sprung into
>> action.  I literally had to stop myself from backing him into a display of
>> pork and beans with some comments of “you got a problem with me”.  Visions
>> of a throat punch were clear in my head...
>>
>>
>>
>> But I calmed myself, reminded myself that going to jail or the ER or a
>> dentist would not be fun this evening, and moved alone.  Ran into a handful
>> of other chickens on the way out the store.
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