We used to butcher beef at home.  If you have a tractor or some way to hoist it 
for gutting and skinning it sure helps.  
Hang it in deer bags for a few days to age.  Use a chain saw to quarter it.  
Cut and wrap a quarter each day.  

Getting rid of the guts is a problem for a cow.  Huge amount of guts.  You can 
sell the hide.  

From: James Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:38 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

I’ve got two show steers that we need to get scheduled for the butcher shop in 
August.  The place that I’d like to take them 15 minutes from me says they’re 
booked through summer of 2021.  I think they’re usually booked 4-6 months out 
but this is far past that.  I’ve heard that others are starting to get that way 
too.  IF we are able to have a fair, I don’t need to worry about the pigs since 
we can’t bring them home from the fair anyway so they go straight to the 
butcher from there but if that’s cancelled then I have 3 of those to figure out 
too.

 

I keep feeling like Lloyd Bridges in Airplane.   I picked a BAD year to let the 
kids start showing steers…..  (for anyone not familiar with 4H, raising and 
showing steers and pigs at the county fair is NOT a money making venture)

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

 

Time to get a new butcher, unless its a one man shop. Our 2 meat shops are 2 
weeks out on packages. Like they always have been. 

 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:39 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

  Time to get your hunting attire out.  

   

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  From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
  To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:15:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

   

  Just saw on FB that the butcher we use is booked up through the rest of the 
year and aren't taking 2021 appointments until June 1st.



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  From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:34:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

  I recently bought some halal chicken thighs at the grocery store.  They were 
actually quite good, maybe a little larger than the typical Tyson or Perdue 
ones, but more skillfully trimmed.

   

  I suppose there’s no such thing as halal pork, though.

   

   

  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:18 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

   

  Our farm recently started to put on a more public-facing presence. It was 
slow going at first, but man has it really picked up speed now. If we can keep 
1/2 of the people coming back in a year, we'll be doing great. People are 
loving the product. Five star Facebook reviews have been coming in.

   

   

  But yeah, the local butchers to turn the animal into meat were already backed 
up.



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  From: "David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:09:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

  I think what he is referring to is that there is an over abundance of the 
product available to manufacture/distribute.    I grew up as a farm kid and 
when we were young, every farmer had pigs, beef cattle (we called them feeder 
cattle) and dairy.   Now, it has all moved to highly efficient, large 
operations.   Most farmers can’t make any money as a small dairy or hog 
operation, and it is way too much work for what you can make.  So everything 
consolidated into large, efficient operations.    As many know, they have been 
dumping milk because they have to milk the cows, they cannot skip a rotation or 
the cows get infections (mastitis).   Same with the large pig operations.   
They have pigs that are mature and have to moved out of the feed 
lots/buildings.   This is due to the cost of continuing to feed them, and the 
need to make room for the smaller ones that are coming in regardless.   So next 
week back where I grew up, they are starting to shoot the pigs, and they’ll 
have to bury them.  So what is going to happen is that we will be killing pigs 
and burying them, but there will be no meat on the shelves because of the meat 
packing plant issue.   I supposed it is more accurately called manufacturing 
rather than distribution, however, I might argue feed and water are the raw 
materials and the growing/finishing is the manufacturing, it is the long pole 
in the tent for timing.   Meat packing is a pretty short time period and it is 
probably manufacturing, but only the tail end of it.   It takes 6-9 months to 
grow a hog to slaughter weight, and 3-5 days to get it to your table.  

   

  I am not commenting on whether his comments are right or wrong, but my wager 
is that in two weeks meat will be the next toilet paper if it isn’t already.   
As you said, I am not sure how well that will work to force them to stay open, 
but things are going to get very nuts of we have 3-4 weeks of most meat packing 
plants being closed.  Of course most of the issue will be over-reaction like 
the toilet paper thing.   

   

  Really sad to see farmers have to destroy finished hogs and stores with no 
meat in them.   But, like the sheetrock shortage 20 years ago, the antifreeze 
shortage 15 years ago, the LCD screen shortage (whenever that was ) these 
highly consolidated, highly efficient, low margin supply chains don’t deal with 
disruption very well.  Not really anyone’s fault, but tough to see.

   

  Regards,  

   

  David Coudron

  david.coud...@advantenon.com |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

   

  Advantenon, Inc.           

  i...@advantenon.com |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 | 
 www.advantenon.com |  Phone: 800-704-4720 |  Local: 612-454-1545 

   



   

  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:47 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

   

  So I was out all day today actually doing work, and now that I’m home I see 
this:

  
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-plans-to-order-meat-processing-plants-to-stay-open-during-coronavirus/ar-BB13kBRq

   

  I have no f’ing idea how that’s gonna play out.

   

  Also the article quotes him as saying there’s plenty of supply, it’s a 
distribution problem.  I have to suspect the reporting got it wrong and he was 
talking about milk or green beans or potatoes.  Because I would not refer to a 
slaughterhouse as “distribution”.

   

  On a semi related note, with all the ethanol plants shutting down because gas 
sales are down, why can I still not buy Purell?  We should be swimming in 
ethanol.

   

  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:11 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

   

  "long pig" is different than ordinary pig... 

   

  On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:

    Since when have pigs not been people?

     

    From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
    Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:57 PM
    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

     

    I’m waiting for someone to start a Soylent Green conspiracy theory about 
why there are thousands of infections at meat packing plants but we don’t hear 
about lots of deaths.

     

    Chuck is safe, though.  His Vienna Sausages are new old stock.  Made the 
old fashioned way, from snouts and feet and tails and everything but the 
squeal.  But at least they’re not people!

     

    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
    Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:08 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

     

    when my dad was in korea during vietnam, he didnt question the source of 
the "beef". but then again, he also drank booze that was made in a pit in the 
ground that you had to strain the squiggly live things out of. So im pretty 
sure a dog or cat with the kimchi wasnt any isue 

     

    On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:54 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

      I've seen some things in China that would scar you for life what they do 
to dogs/cats/animals.  I guess when you are hungry you'll do anything.  Used to 
think it was cliche or just a joke about over there.  Its not.  

       

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      Network Operations Manager
      WaveDirect Telecommunications
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      From: "James Howard" <ja...@litewire.net>
      To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:07:41 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

       

      So you’re saying the cat should have been pictured sitting in a lunch box?

       

      From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steven Kenney
      Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:53 AM
      To: af <af@af.afmug.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan

       

      I don't think they keep cats as pets......

       

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      From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
      To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:59:59 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan

       

      and Facebook will publish a thousand variations.

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/28/2020 7:47 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

        google will remove this truth from the internet

         

        On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

          Yes!

           

          From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
          Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:53 AM
          To: af@af.afmug.com
          Subject: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan

           

           



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