good point on the BBDGE in the conduit, we try to do cross connect at the
top so indoor, maybe indoor shielded would be fine. The cream doesnt go
anywhere, the BBDNE with the gel on the other hand, that stuff destroys
equipment all day long leaking into hardware and power supplies

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:51 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, Kellems grip(s) hung on a hook in the box.  Tower guys will hate
> them because you have to pull all the cables through.  I think there are
> grips that you wrap around the cables and lace up, I haven’t tried those,
> they look complex.
>
>
>
> I think the people who say you need a pull box with a strain relief every
> 50 feet are being too conservative.  I have hung 165 feet or so in 2”
> conduit and I think it’s fine.  I’m not sure I’d try 300 feet.  At that
> height we should all probably be looking at fiber + power.
>
>
>
> I don’t see why you’d run BBDGE inside conduit.  Actually if the entire
> run is in conduit you could probably use indoor cable, but we end up going
> through glands from the box at the top.
>
>
>
> Does the marshmallow fluff inside the BBDGE stay in place, or does it
> gradually flow down the cable?  It’s hard to fight gravity year after year.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 11:07 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers and Chewed Cat5
>
>
>
> They make a grip that has a ring on one end sized for your conduit.   So
> you can put a box in and the grip will have the weight hanging on the box.
>
> Since riser grips are expensive, some people do just get a plain kellems
> grip and hang the bail on a bolt screwed into the back of the box.
>
> ....and go ahead and call me a nut if you want to, but if you stuff the
> pipe 100% full of cables they'll hang with just friction.  I'm aware of a
> 300' vertical run where the only support was a wad of electrical tape at
> the top.  It was done about 15 years ago, and it's still running error free.
>
>
>
> On 5/8/2020 11:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Three of our elevator site are migrating to conduit required. We have to
> retrofit, that sucks. but you guys using conduit, how are you dealing with
> cable weight? any primary site we build out now, we pre-run 12 ethernet top
> to bottom, this gets weighty, especially with BBDGE. How often to you put
> breakout boxes to secure the cable, and what are you tying it off with?
> cable grips are expensive.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:11 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes. Rats, Raccoons, squirrels (squirrels got an aerial fiber cable
> once). Turkeys got up on a roof and pecked all the insulation from about
> 15 feet of cat5 once.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 5/8/2020 7:05 AM, Matt wrote:
> > Have a tower and a bundle of cat5's going up.  Seems raccoons(I
> > assume) climb up occasionally and chew on cat5 wires.  Had one other
> > tower this happened.  Anyone else have this happen?
> >
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