I can't imagine someone involved in that kind of conversation made 3.5 mil
on a conservative options strategy.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> There are many option strategies, some are actually pretty conservative.
> When I was much younger, I used to sell covered calls to generate extra
> income on stocks I was long that had appreciated.  Worst outcome was the
> stock got called away at a price I was willing to accept.  Most of the time
> the options expired worthless and I pocketed a few bucks and did it again.
>
>
>
> There are also strategies like straddles and spreads that are not high
> risk.
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> You can also buy options, and should be prepared to lose what you spent on
> them if you guess wrong.  But you can’t lose more than you spent.  If you
> guess right, you can make a lot.  It’s like Vegas, if you buy $500 of
> chips, that’s the most you can lose.
>
>
>
> Really risky is buying on margin, or short sales, or selling naked
> options.  Yes, I don’t have the guts for those.
>
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 2:05 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - stock market
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> I don’t have the guts for options.  But I did make a nice pile off of
> Tesla over the past few months.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tushar Patel
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:49 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - stock market
>
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>
> Interesting, yesterday I ran into someone and she started talking about
> how people are making a lot of money in options. She went on to say her
> friend made $3.5M in Tesla options.
>
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>
> Tushar
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> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
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> 
>
> I spent about an hour on the phone yesterday with my guy at Morgan
> Stanley, basically cutting my exposure to equities in my IRA in half.  Went
> from 60/40 to 30/70.  Also got rid of one real estate ETF.
>
>
>
> But the interesting factoid I wanted to pass along was he said a lot of
> individual small investors are currently speculating in the market
> including in options basically as a form of entertainment.  And that is
> helping to boost some irrational exuberance.  Even some big name stocks
> that have done well during the pandemic have been bid up to some pretty
> crazy PE ratios.
>
>
>
> I guess if you can’t go to a movie, concert, bar, or casino, there’s Wall
> Street.  But people at a casino aren’t necessarily looking to make a
> profit, just have a good time while losing their money.
>
>
>
> It also turns out he knows the family of the kid who committed suicide
> because he thought erroneously that he lost almost a million dollars on
> some millennial focused stock trading app.
>
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/business/robinhood-suicide-alex-kearns/index.html
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