I agree Bill
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 8:49 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sending in US Marshals (and I presume other federal agents) in unmarked
> vehicles and unmarked uniforms is doing nothing but adding fuel to the
> fire; and it also shows a lack of huevos.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 7/20/2020 6:54 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> No doubt the only difference between cops and criminals in some cases is
> luck. If someone with a predisposition to cracking heads manages to not
> get arrested as a youth due to dumb luck, they can find a place being a
> cop.
>
> I am amused at times how police unions freak out at experiments proposed
> by Berkeley. Sure, if it works they will lose some membership...
>
> Can it all be summed up as some cops are Sheriff Taylor and others are
> Barney Fife?
> Perhaps too many of them work for Boss Hogg.
>
> If more were like Sandra Bullock getting frisked could be more pleasant.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2020 6:38 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
>
>
> The cause is that some cops behave poorly and maybe we can do better than
> that.
>
> - Some of them are clearly racist. There is strong statistical and
> experimental evidence of this. This shouldn't actually be a controversial
> thing to point out since all cops are humans and some humans are racist.
> - Some of them are too quick to violence.
> - Some of them actively defend and cover for their coworkers who have
> been too violent or racist.
> - A lot of them look the other way.
> - A lot of departments have a lot of unnecessary hardware.
>
> Some of the protesters are hooligans. Some of the cops are hooligans
> too. There's plenty of video evidence to support both of those
> statements.
>
> Look at the number of people killed by police per capita in the USA vs
> other countries. We're not as bad as the Philippines or Syria, but we do
> have more people killed by police than any of our Western allies do, both
> in absolute total and per capita. I can't accept the idea that there's no
> real problem here and it's just "the left" trying to trick us into voting a
> certain way.
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2020 11:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> It's about November. It's about maintaining a constant state 9f
> exhaustion. There isnt any actual cause behind it
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 7:00 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The whole occupy whatever, set fire to whatever, irrespective of the
>> adopted noble cause seems like a way to get away with being hooligans and
>> spinning it as some form of justifiable act. I guess so they can have
>> bragging rights later on. I believe them to be disingenuous and
>> hypocritical.
>>
>> This says it far better than I can:
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8532541/Portland-cop-calls-BLM-protesters-hypocritical-not-having-minorities-department.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:17 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
>>
>>
>> “Peaceful protesters hold signs in support of other people” doesn’t make
>> the news. So most likely you are thinking of a small percentage of the
>> protesters, because they are the ones who make the news. I’m not saying
>> it’s “fake news”, just that boring news doesn’t get ratings and advertising
>> dollars.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also not sure what your threshold is for “misbehaving”. Spray painting
>> graffiti on government buildings? Probably only a few people are doing
>> that, but still, is that anarchy? Throwing rocks or burning stuff, yes,
>> that probably crosses a line. But holding up a speaker? News like this,
>> if true (as seems likely), is disturbing:
>>
>>
>> https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/police-shoot-portland-protester-in-head-with-impact-weapon-causing-severe-injuries.html
>>
>>
>>
>> What puzzles me is why you single out white kids and a noble cause as
>> being childish. Do you expect them to only go out and demonstrate for
>> causes that directly benefit them or people who look like them? Are we
>> that polarized and selfish now?
>>
>>
>>
>> I live in a suburb that is mostly white middle class. But I am seeing a
>> lot of yard signs that say “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
>> everywhere.” That’s probably the sentiment of _most_ of the protesters in
>> Portland. If the cops can go all Judge Dredd on George Floyd, maybe that
>> threatens all of us, even if the street judges aren’t coming for people
>> that look like us. Yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe think back to 1978 when some Nazis wanted to march in heavily
>> Jewish Skokie, IL and the ACLU defended their right to free speech. Pretty
>> much nobody wanted marching Nazis, but if you take away their rights, whose
>> rights are next? (But I still laugh at the Illinois Nazis scene in Blues
>> Brothers.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:31 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/anti-fascist-teenagers-seeking-revolution-behind-continued-portland-riots
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't want to encourage political threads on AFMUG but...
>>
>>
>>
>> Some people just want to watch the world burn. Current situations in the
>> world mean that those people can tag onto a reason or (pretext to) join a
>> group or find support to help them in those desires. And somehow, a lot of
>> those people live around Portland?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 3:49 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding.
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam.
>> I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown
>> and busting heads of those that did not clear out. Actually one of my
>> first telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are young white kids just aching for a chance at anarchy? I don’t get it.
>>
>> Misbehaving while trying to wrap some kind of noble cause around you is
>> pretty childish.
>>
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