The movie is shit, but apparently it wasn't even supposed to be a
Starship Troopers movie. The original title was "Bug Hunt on Outpost
9". Someone at the Heinlein estate thought it had too much similarity
to Starship Troopers and there was a legal dispute. The studio agreed
to pay licensing to use Starship Troopers IP. The director had
apparently never even heard of the book and was annoyed at having to
rework the movie into the "Starship Troopers" framework.
On 7/24/2020 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Why are people talking about Starship Troopers lately? I’d never
heard of it. I asked my son what it was about and he said bugs. Bad
bugs? Yes. Good movie? Stupid movie.
Was it satire? There’s a fine line between satire and stupid.
*From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:15 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored
Heinlein hasn’t aged as well as I would have expected. Some great
ideas but the sex bits appealed a lot more to a teenage male than they
do some 40 years later.
Asimov has held up very well - as good today as it was when it was
written.
For newer SciFi:
I absolutely love Dan Simmons “Hyperion Cantos”. A bit slow to start
but a fantastic work. Don’t start it if you have other things you
need to do.
The “Imperial Radch” series by Ann Leckie is also one of my very
favorites. A bit hard to wrap your head around at first but once you
figure it out it’s excellent.
If you want something that’s just a plain fun easy read - “Old Man’s
War” by John Scalzi is a concept straight out of Heinlein’s style,
with a slightly different twist on the sexuality.
Mark
On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I liked Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
The idea that citizenship is not a birthright but something you
earn through service to society was interesting food for thought.
It's not something we could do realistically, but it was
interesting to think about. On the other hand, the idea that
every soldier takes care of his own logistics is pretty dumb
though. Heinlein must have found it objectionable to have more
people in the rear echelon than you have actual fighters, but
frankly modern wars are won by logistics. Having more soldiers is
irrelevant if they don't have food, ammo, clothing, and fully
working equipment; and expecting every Gomer Pile to take part in
every aspect of that would be dumb.
Puppet Masters wasn't bad either. It spawned the whole body
snatching subgenre in sci fi.
On 7/24/2020 4:14 PM,[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>wrote:
I get Sinclair Lewis and Upton Sinclair confused. Didn’t
really like either of them. Been a while since I read any
Bradbury or Heinlein.
*From:*Ken Hohhof
*Sent:*Friday, July 24, 2020 2:01 PM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] bored
I talked to an old college friend the other day, he had just
read and was recommending “It Can’t Happen Here” by Sinclair
Lewis.
*From:*AF<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>*On Behalf Of*Adam Moffett
*Sent:*Friday, July 24, 2020 2:54 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] bored
Books are better.
I found the 1911 edition of the/Boy Scouts
Handbook/enlightening. The views expressed by the author(s)
are a glimpse into a different time. It also discusses
survival and outdoor skills in broad terms. If you tried to
build a bow or a log cabin from the instructions in that book
you'd have to do a lot of your own figuring to fill in the
blanks, but maybe that's the whole point, and maybe that's the
piece we're missing from society today. Like maybe the journey
of figuring out the precise techniques to carve the notches
into the logs is a better experience than emulating a
you-tuber who shows you every single step.
My other recent recreational book was the/National Audubon
Society Field Guide to North American Trees/. I lived 40 years
on this earth only ever learning a handful of major tree types
(Oak, Maple, etc). I'm embarrassed to say I was calling every
needle leafed tree a "pine" for most of those years. I
finally decided to educate myself on the topic.
On 7/24/2020 3:29 PM,[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>wrote:
I am not much of a sports fan... I thought. But with no
sports on I am really missing them. I would at times
catch part of a game to pass the time. That option is
gone for the moment and there nothing but crap on to
watch... Need a good book I guess.
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