I assume the 14 or 15 bidders is a closely guarded secret?  I can't begin
to think who would be able to pay 30k around here for that besides
Verizon/AT&T/Sprint...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Note that the confidentiality and anti collusion rules apply for anyone
> who filed the short form.   Be very careful that what you say in here does
> not violate the FCC rules.
>
> Everything discussed so far is from the public information the FCC is
> releasing or from the auction public notice.
>
> To read the results Josh posted:
>
> The price does not include discounts - 75% of the posted price if you
> qualified as being under 25M/year in revenue - so closer to 27k    There is
> also a rural provider credit.
>
> It reads:
>
> In the initial round the price of one 10Mhz PAL was $21,000 not counting
> any discounts you may have been eligible for.  There were 14 bids at that
> price, with only 7 lots available.
> In the second round the price of one PAL was $24,000  (less discounts).
> There were 15 bids at that price, with only 7 available.
>
> In the 5th round the price for one PAL went up to $33,000 (less discounts)
> with demand down to 10 PAL’s.   The price went up for ALL 7 of the PAL’s.
>
> The price will keep going up until the demand is equal to 7.   Once demand
> gets to 7 there is still a posted price increase - but unless someone adds
> additional demand the price will stay at the previous start of round price.
>
> The price/demand could sit at 7 for the next (insert number) of rounds and
> then start going back up if another bidder decides they are priced out of
> one county and want to move to another county.  Or if they are just playing
> games.
>
> Once  a county is at or above a demand for 7 PAL’s the price won’t go
> down.    If you get a PAL in a round and later decide you don’t want it,
> you are stuck buying it unless someone else bids at the higher price.   You
> can change your demand to 0, saying you don’t want it anymore, but unless
> someone else wants it you are stuck with it.   Just like a normal auction -
> once you are the winning bidder, you own it unless someone outbids you.
>
> For bidders there are required activity levels that you have to meet.
> Essentially you have to bid 95% of your initial deposit on each round.   If
> you don’t bid that what you are allowed to bid in the next round goes down.
>   The rule is basically to keep bidders from sandbagging - if you haven’t
> been bidding and are just waiting to see what others are going to do you
> will run out of eligibility pretty quickly.
>
> Mark
>
> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It’s up to 37k per 10mhz block. Demand is going down though! lol
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 28, 2020, at 08:22, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> No idea how to read this:
>
> <image.png>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the initial rounds that
>>> are taking place this week?
>>>
>>> Haven't really been keeping up with this.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also lost track of the whole auction situation.  Will there be
>>>> another round later?  Seems like nobody bid on some of the counties around
>>>> us, and I wish I'd thrown in a minimum bid at this point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/28/2020 12:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for
>>>> our 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it
>>>> serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on the auction. then the
>>>> world ended and that got back burnered. byt the time we came back to it
>>>> there was no time to learn enough about the auction
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:54 PM Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My guess is none...
>>>>>
>>>>> Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' Are playing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal"
>>>>>
>>>>> FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and just let us die.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I first saw the pricing on our county and surrounding countys for
>>>>> bid I knew there was no chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let the lawsuits FLY...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/27/2020 5:51 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>> > On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>>> >> https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm curious to see how many WISPs actually get a PAL when this is
>>>>> all
>>>>> > done.
>>>>> >
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