Probably two issues.  One-time vs recurring, and fixed vs per-subscriber.

 

And vendor probably sees it as giving the little guy a discount otherwise he 
wouldn’t be able to afford the software until he was bigger.  But customer 
maybe sees it as why should you get more revenue for the same amount of work.  
Like WISPA charging big WISPs more in dues than small WISPs, for arguably the 
same amount of work.

 

I remember a farmer with a crappy grain leg thought he should get 50% of my 
revenue, not a fixed rent.  Sorry, only owners get a cut of revenue or profits. 
 Were you there putting up seed money, buying equipment, and contributing labor 
every day to build the business?  No, you are a landlord, you get rent, and 
maybe free Internet, not a piece of the action.

 

Bottom line, there has to be value to justify the price.  So Microsoft wants to 
sell Windows as a subscription.  Is it like paying for a cellphone in 24 
payments?  Or does Windows truly get better every day with new features that 
make it worth the recurring cost.  Either way, if I’m getting value for my 
dollar, and everything is transparent, we’re good.

 

Not sure comparing to the WISP business is apples-to-apples.  Yes, customers 
think all we do is bolt a metal thingy to their roof, and they wonder why they 
have to pay us every month.  But in actuality it’s more like the power company 
or the grocery store.  We do stuff every month that costs us money and labor in 
order to deliver them Internet service.  Yes, there is an element that 
customers expect their Internet to automagically get faster to support all 
their new devices and apps, but they are not really paying for innovation.  
Maybe it’s like a lawn service.  Yes, you pay them every month, but they come 
and cut your grass every month.  And when they do, it costs them for gas and 
labor and equipment maintenance and landfill charges for dumping the clippings. 
 It’s different than having them do a big landscaping job and then paying them 
in installments.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 1:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] QB for billing

 

Exactly.  We want their recurring revenue.  And we don’t want recurring 
payments.  Seems perfectly logical to me.

 

From: Cameron Crum 

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 12:32 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] QB for billing

 

What is your business model based on again? Why would you deny someone else the 
same model? I think most people don't realize that you are always going to pay 
one way or another. Just because it is big chunks every once in a while vs 
small chucks over time doesn't make a difference. You may pay in other ways 
like increased employment costs, multiple platforms to perform all the same 
functions, time in doing triple data entry into those platforms, etc, etc. 

 

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 11:53 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us 
<mailto:se...@rollernet.us> > wrote:

On 8/14/20 5:46 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> SAAS is a developer's lazy way out. Traditionally, you had to innovate 
> with your product to entice people to give you more money. Now they have 
> to give you more money to keep operating.


I find it frustrating because *everyone* wants a piece of recurring 
revenue. Am I just generating revenue to feed to subscriptions?

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