May the Farm be with you... From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos
HI folks, Just wanted to take a quick moment to thank everyone for the quick and incredibly useful information. The solution talked about here will certainly work for our purpose. We are continually humbled by the depth of knowledge and willingness to share on this list. Much appreciated, Regards, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:43 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos We do this all the time... beam clamps work fine on the rings. Here's a picture of the mount I came up with. There's certainly room for improvement, if you wanted to put more effort into building a mount, but we've used hundreds of these with no problems. On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 11:28 AM <[email protected]> wrote: I think the issue is that the bands are tight tight tight to the concrete. So you can’t get anything between the band and the concrete. At least the ones I remember seeing were like that. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos If you don't like the beam clamp, you could just as easily drill a hole the size of the hoop in some bar stock close to the end then drill a hole for a bolt through in the other direction and then cut the stock through the middle of the hoop hole creating your own clamp. On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 11:10 AM Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:54 AM Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote: You would be better off replacing the bolt with a longer one that goes through a piece of angle iron. Two clamps per angle iron then a U bolt in the center between clamps. Two of these per mount (on different hoops) with a 2-3/8 HDG pipe clamped in the U bolts. On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:47 AM <[email protected]> wrote: Tighten the beam clamp to the strap. Then use a connecting nut on the protruding bolt: https://www.homedepot.com/pep/Hillman-1-4-20-Stainless-Coupling-Nut-8-Pack-45132/204775435?cm_mmc=Shopping-BA-F_Test-G-D25H-25_3_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Fasteners_PLA_GMT-71700000069206243-58700006141909138-92700055508967946&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6LSGqtyi7AIVisDACh1dogGwEAQYBCABEgLbzfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-BA-F_Test-G-D25H-25_3_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Fasteners_PLA_GMT&source=shoppingads Then you will have a nice tapped hole to mount all kinds of things to. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos Google this: Parallel Beam Clamp, 3/4 in., 316 SS, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:05 AM, David Coudron <[email protected]> wrote: Not a bad idea, we hadn’t thought of that one. The silo owners might be nervous about that, but it shouldn’t put any noticeable metal fatigue on the bands due to welding. We’ll ask about that. You don’t have any tower mounts that clamp down to ¾” in diameter do you? Clamping around it and welding at the same time would really give it some strength. We have worked on one silo in the past that used Ken’s suggestion of the Rohn clamped to it. That would definitely work, we were just hoping for something that would be quicker to implement. As always, we appreciate the ideas, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos Weld to the bands? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2020, at 3:28 AM, David Coudron <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Colin, I think the diameter of the silo will probably rule these out. It looks like it would be a great option for silos with smaller diameters, but the ones we are working with are 30-40 ft in diameter. The banding might be an option, but it will be tough to get around the top of the silo with a large diameter without a boom truck. We may have to bring in a boom truck, but are planning to do our work from the ladder and attach our equipment close to the ladder for serviceability. Regards, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos Oh, here there are some. Banding and tension tool: https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=29 Clamps that work with the banding, although these are a smaller model that may be more for cable than pipes: https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=75 On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 10:05 PM Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: What is the diameter? If not too big, you may find some of the chimney mounts here useful: https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=776 It may be easier to put your own metal band setup, there must be some specific blocks that you can use to both tension them and create a solid mounting point. On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 9:59 PM David Coudron <[email protected]> wrote: We have a new project in which we will be using cement stave solid for a couple of tower locations. They aren’t ideal for our application, but they are the only tall structures in the area we need two towers and the project has to be complete by the end of the year, so we are not going to have time to build any kind of alternate structure. The silos have a round metal band that runs horizontally around each level of the cement staves. We plan to attached a pole vertically to several of those bands so that we can mount our equipment on. Each pole will be attached to 3-4 of the bands. We are wondering if anyone has done that in the past and what they have used. Our go to bracket for towers is the M-TOW-A from Chuck, but they aren’t the right application for this. Chuck, I don’t know if you have something else that would work better, or has anyone seem a bracket/clamp that works well for this application? We are thinking a clam type clamp that clamps to the horizontal metal band (it is tough to get a bracket between the metal band and the cement stave) and will clamp to a vertical pole would be a winner, but haven’t seen anything like this. Anyone done this in the past? 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