In the true story /Alive/ which someone referenced earlier, they ate the people who were already dead from the plane crash. They were all frozen in the snow so none of them were going to rot.  Plenty to pick from and no reason to kill anyone on purpose.  Certain bodies were set aside "for eating last", like the sister of one of the survivors, because it would have been too emotional to eat them.  A few chose not to eat the dead on moral grounds, and those who stuck to that path withered and died (and days of starvation changed the moral equation for some of them).

It started with a joke which might have been a trial balloon. While discussing their hunger someone said something like, screw that pilot for crashing us, we should just eat his corpse, LOL-just-kidding-or-am-I?

In that case they were in a frozen wasteland on top of the Andes and literally the only calories available were the ones they brought with them.  If we were in a place where it was plausible to go hunting then there'd be things to eat.  Les Stroud in one of his You Tube videos said something about everybody being squeamish about eating the roasted grubs and scorpions when their stomach is full, but he'd never seen a single person turn down eating the bugs after a couple days with nothing else.

I don't think they mentioned this in the movie version, but the epilogue to the book /Alive/ said that ironically there was a ski lodge several miles from the crash site.  It was closed for the winter, but it had food and fuel stored there.  They ended up electing "expeditionaries" to go for help....but they chose a path that they thought would take them out of the mountains and had no reason to suspect that shelter was within walking distance.  The lesson I think is that good scouting should precede the cannibalism.

In your situation I'm not sure how you explain the missing people from the hunting party.  "Good news is we got us some mountain lion to eat.  Bad news is it got Jimmy first.  Yeah I know it's a damn shame that keeps happening whenever I go hunting."


On 10/8/2020 1:42 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
So I've been giving it thought. If you were in a survival scenario, plane crash, insurrection, aliens, whatever and had to resort to cannibalism, if it were your job to be the hunter. Would you tell your people you were feeding them other people? Or just tell them you captured a cat or something and serve it prepared. I'm really torn on this one. It's wrong to not tell them, but if you did it could cause strife. Keeping it a secret nobody has the moral issue to contend with but you'll run out of people meat sooner. If you tell them, some will refuse, which extends your meat stores. That presents a new issue, those who dont partake are going to ultimately starve to death, by that point there wont be much food left on them, it would almost be irresponsible to let all that protein go to waste and you might need to harvest them right then and there.

I wonder if an hoa can put in a cannibalism clause in the event of major issues where food will become an issue.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 5:32 PM castarritt <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Moderate Lent


    On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:14 AM Brian Webster
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Isn’t it Lent?

        Thank you,

        Brian Webster

        www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>

        *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
        *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:00 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

        Well, pedophilia amongst children is probably OK.

        Moderate shootings with bean bag projectiles can be OK.

        Moderate cannibalism is OK when your airplane crashes in the
        Andes or you get snowed in by Truckee.

        Moderate fascism is totally OK in Russia it appears.

        I like moderate black lives.

        *From:*Bill Prince

        *Sent:*Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:49 AM

        *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

        Only moderate fascism.

        Only moderate pedophilia.

        Only moderate cannibalism.

        Only moderate shooting.

        Only moderate black lives.

        bp

        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 10/7/2020 6:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            I choose moderation in all things.

            Sent from my iPhone



            On Oct 7, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Adam Moffett
            mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

                

                The medal hanging in the center of Star Trek Q's chest
                appears to be a sheep.  Oddly relevant.  The shepherd
                known as QAnon convinces his sheep that they're the
                enlightened ones and the non-believers are the real
                sheep.

                I know some of you are more worried about the left
                wing radicals who need to battle fascism and white
                supremacists which actually exist in the US only in
                scattered hundreds with no political or cultural
                relevance. The right wing ones frighten the hell out
                of me with their need to battle the pedophile
                cannibals who are completely imaginary.  A lot of
                people on both of these wings imagine that the silent
                majority secretly supports them.   I think the silent
                majority is silent for the same reason you silently
                ignore a raving street preacher.  Meanwhile a lot of
                politicians have noted that the loud and crazy people
                are more motivated to vote.

                Actual policy discussion becomes mired in the
                craziness.  "Oh you like free markets?  Must be a
                white supremacist."

                "Oh you're concerned the American police resort to
                violence more often than those in other countries. 
                You're a pawn of the pedophile cannibal cabal." 
                Interesting times.

                On 10/6/2020 6:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

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                    Intelligent Computing Solutions
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                    *From: *"Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent: *Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:23:18 PM
                    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

                    Q is the supposed "leader" of Qanon. Personally, I
                    think there is probably more than one Q, and they
                    may or may not coordinate their message(s). I
                    think they could be more effective if they weren't
                    so out and out bonkers. Eat babies? really?

                    bp

                    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                    On 10/6/2020 10:58 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

                        is that a real conspiracy?

                        My wife had a friend over the other day, first
                        time I ever met a real Q believer. weird shit.
                        is Q not the same as Qanon? cause Qanon I
                        always thought was just some guy that posted
                        vague stuff and was supposedly in the
                        administration. Q people think the rich eat
                        babies and some lady who just had a
                        miscarriage, cristy tegan or something, uses
                        the code pizza, for little girls and always
                        instagrams about pizza. weird shit

                        I think HOAs operate on different rules, since
                        its a "voluntary" entry into them. Ive never
                        looked too deep into it cause id never be in
                        one, id put an air hose up my back first. but
                        the contracts must give up a great deal of
                        private property rights including waiving
                        otard stuff

                        On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:23 AM Robert
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            Google uses low frequency brain
                            stimulation.. Whenever you use their
                            browser and the volume isn't turned off.

                            On 10/6/20 7:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

                                Messaging is king of all I suppose.

                                If you were Google, people would
                                believe that you magically give it
                                away for free.  Since you're not
                                Google they'll assume some kind of
                                robbery or graft.  I don't know how
                                Google pulls off that kind of public
                                relations coup.

                                On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown
                                via AF wrote:

                                    But it is free! Comes with HOA
                                    dues.  Such a deal.

                                    Sent from my iPhone

                                        On Oct 6, 2020, at 7:58 AM,
                                        Adam Moffett
                                        mailto:[email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                        wrote:

                                        

                                        If I was in charge of laws,
                                        they wouldn't be so legalistic.

                                        You don't have exclusivity per
                                        se, but in de facto nobody
                                        will buy anything else when
                                        they're already forced to pay
                                        you whether they like it or
                                        not.  They'd have to actively
                                        hate you before they'll even
                                        consider something else. 
                                        You'd have to steal their
                                        birthdays before they consider
                                        another option, and you'd have
                                        to violate their daughters
                                        before they're willing to pay
                                        what the installation of the
                                        other option will actually cost.

                                        .....that doesn't make it a
                                        bad deal for you, of course.
                                        Competitors will cry foul
                                        because you can make money and
                                        they can't, but that doesn't
                                        mean they wouldn't do the same
                                        thing if they could.

                                        On 10/5/2020 8:05 PM,
                                        [email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

                                            We don’t have exclusivity,
                                            we just have a service
                                            included in HOA fees. They
                                            can have any service
                                            provider they want.

                                            But the service provider
                                            will have to do an
                                            overbuild into a saturated
                                            area.  I would bet they
                                            will not do it.

                                            *From:*Mark Radabaugh

                                            *Sent:*Monday, October 5,
                                            2020 5:52 PM

                                            *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave
                                            Users Group

                                            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT
                                            Royalty deal

                                            
https://www.keglerbrown.com/publications/mdus-vs-the-fcc-exclusivity-service-agreements-with-cable-and-internet-providers/
                                            
<https://www.keglerbrown.com/publications/mdus-vs-the-fcc-exclusivity-service-agreements-with-cable-and-internet-providers/>


                                            
https://www.nexttv.com/news/fcc-bans-exclusive-mdu-deals-296566
                                            
<https://www.nexttv.com/news/fcc-bans-exclusive-mdu-deals-296566>

                                            FCC Bans Exclusivity
                                            Contracts — HOA Law Blog —
                                            February
                                            ...www.hoalawblog.com ›
                                            fcc_bans_exclusivity_contracts
                                            
<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjak-670p7sAhUVHM0KHcR5D74QFjACegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoalawblog.com%2Ffcc_bans_exclusivity_contracts%2F&usg=AOvVaw1IWC6vbyFt33Un5wLgPWSa>

                                            Pay your money and take
                                            your chances

                                            Mark

                                                On Oct 5, 2020, at
                                                4:52 PM, Chuck McCown
                                                <[email protected]
                                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                wrote:

                                                Lots of companies
                                                doing these deals. 
                                                MDU, subdivisions.
                                                What would be illegal
                                                about it?  The
                                                homeowners are free to
                                                go after any service
                                                they want, but they
                                                are locked into my
                                                service.  This has
                                                been litigated at the
                                                CATV level years ago
                                                and was found legal.

                                                On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at
                                                2:28 PM Mark Radabaugh
                                                <[email protected]
                                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                wrote:

                                                    I think you are
                                                    going to find that
                                                    arrangement is
                                                    highly illegal
                                                    from an FCC
                                                    standpoint. When
                                                    the deal gets
                                                    blown out by the
                                                    next company that
                                                    sues you and the
                                                    HOA over it, is it
                                                    going to be worth
                                                    your time and
                                                    investment?

                                                    Mark

                                                        On Oct 5,
                                                        2020, at 4:20
                                                        PM,
                                                        [email protected]
                                                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                                        wrote:

                                                        I am getting
                                                        some traction
                                                        with
                                                        developers for
                                                        my fiber. They
                                                        want me to
                                                        come in, they
                                                        will put the
                                                        subscription
                                                        to my service
                                                        as part of the
                                                        HOA fees. They
                                                        will not let
                                                        others in the
                                                        ditch. All for
                                                        10% of the
                                                        gross.  So I
                                                        get 100% take
                                                        rate.  I am
                                                        not unhappy
                                                        with the
                                                        deal.  But I
                                                        am wondering
                                                        about agreeing
                                                        to a perpetual
                                                        royalty.
                                                        Anyone else
                                                        done one of
                                                        these deals?

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