Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. You said that 
this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve moved everyone who can 
remote.

I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right now look at El 
Paso. This is not going away after the election.

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly said that the 
> natural progression of any novel virus is 3 annual seasons, with this one in 
> particular being predominately in fall. this is season 2. We have treatments 
> now that are effective, we quit killing people with ventilators the way were 
> were in the beginning, healthcare isnt overwhelmed and theres no shortage of 
> PPE. We only have 8 days until reporting on this changes to be less 
> terrifying.
> 
> Healthy people are being exposed, beating it, and innoculated, 3 months 
> permanent, no one knows if this is different thatn 99 percent of other 
> viruses. but of the well over 30 million people who were verified positive 
> via testing and have since recovered, less than 20 globally have been 
> reinfected, so odds are the vast majority are immune.
> 
> Knowing what we know now, we have permanently moved all positions that can be 
> remote to remote. techs dont go any further than the garage if they dont have 
> to. Its techs choice to mask up and glove up, and as long as they choose to 
> mask up and glove up, it will continue to be there choice. This is only 
> applicable to interiors, theyre not required to mask outside, thats simply 
> ignorant to require and its not "following the science" . ut the tech can 
> choose to do that if they want. hell, if they want to wear a condom all day, 
> its none of our concern.
> 
> Our state positivity numbers are a joke, they simply base it on the 
> percentage of total tests that are positive, its gotten colder, so people 
> arent getting tested on a whim and we are back to primarily people with risk 
> factors getting tested, the positivity rate went up as would be expected, but 
> not as high as anticipated.
> 
> If legitimate numbers start going up like hospitalizations (luckily I have 
> ins in healthcare so i dont have to rely on media reports and politically 
> charged public health departments, i am privy to internal census reports in 
> healthcare) then we will look toward lower contact solutions, and no contact 
> if our coverage area sees a legitimate surge.
> 
> We dont do stupid stuff, like my contractor who was infected, we cancelled 
> him for his quarantine period. We dont have in person company meetings. When 
> we are together on project work we dont ride in the same vehicle, we just 
> dont take any unnecessary risk, but we also dont let risk avoidance 
> unnecessarily impact operations. 
> 
> I quit worrying about exposures with the wife working in a hospital, we are 
> exposed constantly. (the low incidence of healthcare transmission is an 
> oddity that after the politics of this thing are over I hope they do some 
> deep diving into, its either going to boil down to we still dont actually 
> know how its primarily transmitting or healthcare has such a high incidence 
> of low viral load exposures that theyr innoculated without actually catching 
> it, similar to how some allergies can be beaten through very low dose 
> exposures to the allergen, will be interesting research when the politics of 
> it are over)
> 
> Every single "look at this country, look at that country" has turned out to 
> be wrong on both sides of the argument, even WHO says lockdowns are the wrong 
> solution now. 
> 
> Im still waiting for the fed money that went out to put a bunch of people in 
> prison, even in this industry there will probably be some prison sentences 
> handed out, the money came with requirements, it wasnt just free cash to grow 
> a company.
> 
> 
> I can tell you there is something going around thats causing chest xrays to 
> look exactly like covid damage, but no testing method is identifying the 
> presence of covid or history of its presence, thats concerning, keep that in 
> mind when relaxing policies. Its flu season, and given the disruption of 
> interaction, this years flu vaccine is not going to very effective, its worth 
> keeping covid policies in place regardless to not have staff out with a wild 
> flu.
> 
> And remember, the media frenzy is only just beginning its 8 days of hell, 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> We are so bad we were featured on ABC News.... people just want to fucking 
>> party...
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:25 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Numbers here in Illinois are bad again today, all we can say is “at least 
>>> we’re not Wisconsin”.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I no longer roll my eyes at my daughter choosing to live in Maine, where 
>>> “social distancing” was already the norm.  (bike photo was actually from a 
>>> ride a month ago up to the Quebec border)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:17 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thursday our techs had to stop wiring up panel and stuff because two 
>>> electricians would wear masks...I wasn't there , I would have made them 
>>> step outside ...our boss complained to water utilities because we are on a 
>>> schedule with several people.  
>>> 
>>> The control room is small.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 10:19 AM Matt Hoppes 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We are doing normal installs for now. Watching our local county info in 
>>> internal tracking systems I developed. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So far we’re staying fairly isolated. If things severely spike this winter 
>>> we will shut down installs again. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> At this point we are not masking nor requiring customers to wear masks - 
>>> but we do ask customers to stay 10feet away from techs. This point will be 
>>> driven home even more as we go into the winter months. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So 8 months in, numbers are getting worse not better, and despite what 
>>> anybody says the end is not just around the corner.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I remember at the beginning some WISPs were not sending techs inside 
>>> customer homes, maybe pushing a cable through the wall and having the 
>>> customer plug in the POE and router.  Is anybody still declining to do 
>>> inside work?  Installs, repairs?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Also, what about the FCC requested “pledge” not to disconnect customers for 
>>> nonpayment during the pandemic.  How many are still doing that, and 
>>> assuming things won’t be back to “normal” until well into 2021 or even 
>>> 2022, how long do you plan to continue?  Are you taking any additional 
>>> steps, like downgrading their speed or declining to do upgrades, or 
>>> requiring proof of hardship?  I know this wasn’t mandatory, but if we did 
>>> it voluntarily, should there be a time limit?  And if at that point they 
>>> are 6-12 months behind, do we write that off rather than expecting they 
>>> will catch up?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It’s also interesting I see on cable company forums issues about mask 
>>> refusal, both by techs and customers, and even of customers who have Covid 
>>> but still want their Internet fixed.  I hesitate to bring this up because 
>>> it has become a political or “freedom” issue in a way that seatbelts or 
>>> smoking or wearing a yellow vest at a grain elevator or even picking up 
>>> after your dog isn’t, and I’m tired of being caught in the middle.  But 
>>> take the extreme case of a customer who recently tested positive or the 
>>> tech gets there and strongly suspects someone in the house is contagious, 
>>> is this really happening, and what is your response?  At the beginning I 
>>> would ask when setting up every appointment, has anyone in the house tested 
>>> positive, but I’ve come to believe that’s pointless.
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