Secret vote prevents coding ballot to envelope.  I would like to see online 
voting but until a simple, ubiquitous, robust identification method is created 
it probably will not happen.

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>> On Nov 19, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Their premise is not at the election committee level, it's at the machine 
> level, they have a fair argument, the brand was used once before to alter the 
> outcome of an election, this one, unlikely, but it's enough to say that the 
> counting of the votes are one of the few things maybe we dont outsource. I 
> dont know how in 2020 where everyone carries a camera with 4 to 8 hours 
> record time anyone pretends that there is any valid reason for the count not 
> to be recorded, every ballot counted, video recording. There is no reason 
> that envelopes and ballots cant be code paired. If we are going to stay with 
> digital (I think we should stay paper like canada) then there is zero reason 
> not to have systems where you can verify your vote is what you put on the 
> ballot, covid gave us that, at the scale of a national election, the security 
> and anonymity is already there. 
> I dont understand why this far into the game we still play games that make it 
> possible for idiots to put cardboard sheets up over the counting room so 
> monitors cant watch. Morons like that are always going to weasel there way 
> in, and yes they will cheat. Audio and video recording will resolve that 100 
> percent.
> Eliminate that stupidity and we dont have to sit through this carnival again.
> Now, supposedly they're trying to get state legislatures to overturn the 
> people's vote by invalidating the people's counted vote. Pull that type of 
> shit and I hope that the 80 million new firearm purchased since january were 
> a high percentage pansy liberals and they start stacking bodies like champs. 
> Most real americans wouldnt stand in there way for that, hell, they might 
> even join in on the fun.
> It didnt have to come from this, this is as dumb as Chad gore
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 7:35 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Each county and state runs its own election.  To influence them in the way 
>> that's being described and with enough fake votes to make the difference, 
>> then you'd need a conspiracy involving hundreds or possibly thousands of 
>> people.  It's far fetched.  Certainly, if they find something they should 
>> arrest the people involved.  I'm betting they won't find anything. 
>> 
>> And no, a guy on Youtube yakking about a Trump campaign staffer tweeting 
>> about his informal survey is not "anything".  If Matt Braynard can describe 
>> his research methodology and other people can independently reach the same 
>> conclusion then that would be something.  In which case, we should hear 
>> about it from any of the federal, state, or local law enforcement 
>> organizations who would all love to blow open the case of the century.
>> 
>> Nobody's saying election fraud is ok, but I think most people are noticing 
>> that Donald Trump's lawyers are the only ones talking about election fraud.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/19/2020 7:20 PM, justsumname wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBdfxJdlvcE
>>> 
>>> It is getting interesting, and this election thing is still far from over.
>>> --
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>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 2:45 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> lol, they just elected a guy president with the same cruelty, so thats not 
>>>> really much of a thing anymore
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 1:43 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> It’s cruel of people to keep putting Rudy in the public eye when clearly 
>>>>> he’s not all there anymore, I don’t know if it’s dementia or what, but he 
>>>>> needs to be sitting on a porch somewhere playing checkers, not making a 
>>>>> fool of himself for the world to see.  Of course he’s always been a 
>>>>> little off, look at his marriage history.  I assume since he was a lawyer 
>>>>> and mayor he wasn’t always like this.  Or maybe he was.  Again, the 
>>>>> marriage history.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:46 PM
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I dont know what happened to that guy. hopefully when this is said and 
>>>>> done we go the way of canada on electronic voting.  then we put cameras 
>>>>> recording the count tables. Golden and no need for recounts or weird 
>>>>> people like this team of lunatics having crazy press conferences. I think 
>>>>> the media sent their interns instead of reporters
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:35 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Guliani told me I could Google Dominion and find out that it's owned by 
>>>>> Venezuelans.  My Google seems to work differently from his.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/19/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> jesus christ this broad just referred to themselves as an "elite 
>>>>> strikeforce team"
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:00 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry Steve. You lost me at the bakery.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> On 11/19/2020 9:51 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> While id like my guy to come out on top magically, this press conference 
>>>>> presents more like a bad SNL skit
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
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