So, no gas but no nuclear...  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 9:08 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

We have a gas tank water heater on the south/original part of the house, and a 
tankless for the north/addition. Neither is ideal because of the long pipe runs 
to some of the usage places. Everything is spread out to maximize the distance 
from the water heater(s) to where it's actually used. 


Not ideal. I have no problem with the way the house is layed out, but the 
really long water pipes is a big issue. If I were to start over, I might 
consider point-of-use water heaters, but, jeeze, that would be 8 of them; 5 
bathrooms, kitchen, laundry, and utility sink in the garage. I suppose a couple 
could be combined because they are so close together.

Another thing to consider is local codes. There are a couple places here in the 
Bay Area where they are prohibiting gas for new developments. That means no gas 
stoves/ovens; no gas dryers; no gas water heaters. That is probably the way of 
the future, so probably heat pumps or pure electric.




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<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/28/2020 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

  You guys all do different weird shit. Went to drain my gas heater tonite (may 
have put that maintenance off longer than intended) 
  We are quarry country so we have super hard water. Needless to say tanks full 
of baked in sediment and when I cleared the valve I may have cracked the liner, 
about every ten seconds I'm getting a drip on the burner, and my pop off is 
dripping, probably some sediment.

  The water heater is the only thing I have that vents hot anymore and my 
chimney leaks in driving rain. Is rather just bash it in and put a dumbwaiter 
in the chase. I have the two fresh kids that I bet would have a blast riding 
that. 

  Power vent gas looks to almost double the cost.

  Tankless is looking almost comparable in price for gas, so I'm curious if any 
of you guys run them without major water softener and filters.

  I'm planning on solar in the next 5 or 6 years when I redo my roof so 
electric would be the thing I go with on the water heater after the one I'm 
gonna have to put in now.

  I like gas water heaters because I know how to fix them, parts are cheap, 
same with my clothes dryers. But theyve priced themselves into me looking at my 
options. 

  Tankless I dont know how to calculate gpm needs. But what led to this was 
taking the flow reducer out of my low flow shower head and running out of hot 
water in 20 minutes. I start my day by scalding myself for about a half hour 
cause I'm a filthy bastard and need to be cleansed of my sins.
  We have 2 bathrooms and a girl hitting her teens, so I assume we may be 
getting into a shower and bath coming on at the same time and the wife knowing 
what's good for her and washing dishes.
  She wont let me put a wood stove and still in the bathroom, so wood fired 
shower options are out.
  Are residential boilers a thing? All my walls had pocket doors so I have 
plenty of room for radiant walls, I dont know if boiler heat it even efficient 
though.





   


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