Somewhere along the line, the mindset shifted where time=value from
physical product=value. So if you don't know how to do something, you
don't do it, and have someone that already knows how to do it, do it.
If you are spending time trying to solve a problem, that's bad. So the
generation now will not do something if they don't know how to do it.
There's no exploration anymore. Even Lego kits come with instructions
on how you put them together.
I was raised in a house where Time had no value, so if you spent lots of
time and saved actual money, that was the best. Not that we were poor,
just how I was raised. I remember when i first started working, i was
doing something and told the boss how there was a $50 tool that might
help do it faster, but i wasn't sure, so I'm not spending money. Instead
of being happy at my frugality, He told me, 'If you think spending $50
will save you an hour a week, you buy it and you try it.'
So how do you teach when spending time is ok, vs not ok? If one of your
boring guys came and said he thinks he has an idea for how to increase
output 50% a day, but needs 2 weeks to work on it, do you let him do
it? What if it's only 1 week, 1 hour?
On 12/14/2020 11:05 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
This got me fired on my birthday once.
Worked at a high end bird food manufacturer, we got in 2000lb boxes of
peanuts. They had to be sprayed with an antioxidant that stopped some
growth that kills exotic birds. I religiously put it in every 2000lb
crate (takes a long time, has to be dumped into a little leg up into a
mixer)
Me and this punk were the ones who were responsible for this. His
speed was a lot faster than mine, never really had time to figure out why.
We had a QA checklist that had that on it. This is where I screwed up,
and why I never sign others QA stuff now. Whoever was at the book when
a batch went through signed it
When random lab sampling came back on a batch I signed QA on, guess
what wasnt in it, yep, the antioxidant. As I was being walked out how
realized how that prick was so much faster than me.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 10:26 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I remember working as a bagger/stock boy at a grocery store. Other
guys
were content to goof off in a storage room and let me do all the
work.
I was never angry at them, just confused because I couldn't
understand
their attitude towards work. Now I get angry when I have to pick up
after other people. The difference isn't in the young
whippersnappers,
it's that I've grown up to be an a-hole.
In my opinion, the top traits that will make a person successful
are these:
1. The willingness to look at your own work and say, "I can do this
better next time."
2. Willingness to look at an unfamiliar problem and say "I've got the
ball, I will figure out how to solve this."
They both boil down to attitude. I don't know how such attitudes are
learned, but schools need to figure out how to teach it. Kids
will do
the bare minimum at every other subject if they don't somehow get the
attitude right. When the bare minimum is good enough at school then
that's what they'll do the rest of their life.
Just one a-hole's opinion.
-Adam
On 12/14/2020 11:02 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> I'm getting tired of what is either bad data, or people just not
> caring about their jobs. To quote Moss 'I've sent an email, it's
> fine...' Not bothering to go beyond their first google result and
> calling it good. Why can't people take pride in their jobs anymore?
>
> Dunn and Bradstreet has the contact for our company listed as
someone
> who has never worked here, and they want to charge us to update
their
> info. Circular file cabinet for anything from them.
>
> Paypal just called looking for someone who has never worked here.
>
> A police department in Massachusetts (we are in Illinois) Left
us a
> voicemail asking us to remove our vehicle from their street. He
left
> me the VIN and Registration number of the vehicle, but did not
leave
> an area code with his callback number, he Blocked his CID. I
had to
> get the RPID info from our phone provider to track down his
department
> to tell them that we're not who he's looking for. Why did he not
> actually start with the vehicle registration info instead of
googling
> for the name that was on the side of the van and calling the first
> result? i fell like the police would have access to that data.
>
> The FBI emailed me a Subpoena for ip address records for IP
addresses
> that was not ours, but another company with a similar sounding name.
>
> Not to mention companies applying payments to wrong circuits, so 1
> circuit has a 5 month credit on it, and they shut a 2nd circuit off
> for non-payment with no letters or calls.
>
> I was talking to someone in the airline industry, they said the
> biggest problem they have with new employees is perfection. The
new
> employee will say 'it's fine, it works 95% of the time' to which
they
> have to be reminded that someone will die if that 5% comes up.
>
> And don't get be started on how Bloated all software is now.
>
> I guess I'm just getting too old and curmudgeonly and these young
> whippersnappers just don't understand what doing a good job is.
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