ha, chuck said pussies

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:11 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sprint once owed our company $3M.  Highly technical interstate access rate
> element issues.  Sprint simply quit paying access charges.  The judge said
> “I think someone owes someone else some money but that is about all I can
> understand about this case”.  After I left the company they settled with
> Sprint and actually paid them $150K.  Pussies...
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 9:16 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit
> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware
>
> I believe the claim was that Cambium hacked Ubnt's hardware so they could
> figure out how to load Cambium firmware onto Ubnt radios. This would save a
> wisp a ton of money if they decided to switch platforms as they would not
> have to buy new CPEs, just APs. They found some technicality in the DMCA, I
> believe, and it looks like either Cambium decided it might go against them
> (highly likely when trying to convince non-technical judges)  or they
> decided it would just be less expensive to end it now. What looks to those
> of us who understand things like radio chipsets better than the average joe
> public like a no-brianer, is most likely incomprehensible to a judge or a
> selection of random people in a jury pool. Heck I've seen supposed
> "distinguished trial judges" not be able to tell which party is which in a
> property dispute because one party claimed to be the other by filing brand
> new articles of incorporation with the same name. I would expect trying to
> convince them the radio hardware was not proprietary would be tantamount to
> a fat man climbing mount everest without oxygen. Maybe "someone" will
> figure out a way to do this independently just in case they don't want to
> swap thousands of CPEs. I can't imagine it would be too difficult, but you
> might open yourself up to a new lawsuit.
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:21 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> So who is who here.  I guess I am UBNT?
>> Paint my mounts sounds like flash my radio with the code of others.
>> So UBNT could legally claim you cannot put Cambium code in their radios?
>>
>> So were UBNT customers putting Cambium software in UBNT radios?
>> Or were people putting UBNT software in Cambium radios?
>>
>> I remember it happening at the time.  I just don’t remember any details.
>> The article says that the settlement involved Cambium paying UBNT.
>> Assuming that is correct, the Cambium must have done something wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Craig Schmaderer
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:02 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit
>> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware
>>
>>
>> Chuck, I look at it like, if you said I could not paint your mounts after
>> I buy them, and I decide to paint them blue using Rustoleum paint, you
>> would sue Rustoleum and I for breaking your EUA
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:33 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit
>> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware
>>
>>
>>
>> I never understood the argument.  What exactly did Cambium do wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:09 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit
>> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope cambium does it again with something else ubnt now just to spite
>> them. Whatever they paid has to be nothing compared to the volume of
>> customers they rolled over
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 7:47 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEFvp2xGH5DLp_0VFw74VGwYqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowjo_YBzCo6Ugwi9XQBg?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
>>
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