Jaques Rousseau vs David Hume

I inherently trust people.   

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> On Dec 26, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I disagree. Human nature is evil. It’s only by God’s grace we don’t have more 
> horrible things happen. 
> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Human nature provides security. 
>> Most healthy humans will not do this type of stuff. 
>>  
>> And bad guys are notorious for being idiots.
>>  
>> From: Steve Jones
>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:25 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>  
>> There are so many vulnerabilities that trying to pretend anyone can make 
>> anything secure is a joke.
>>  
>> A crew of 12 or less with a handful of gas bucksaws can shut the east 
>> coast/west coast rail transit down, and the result will be the entire north 
>> american rail system to be shut down until every inch of track is inspected.
>>  
>> A couple dozen pounds of tannerite and a handful of people can take out 
>> enough towercoms that no shelter in the US can be entered without being 
>> cleared first.
>>  
>> This attack, whether or not it was directed at att or not puts the onus 
>> where it belongs again, on the service provider. The post morten will 
>> develop new best practices.
>>  
>> 9/11 was low tech. 
>>  
>> Oklahoma city was low tech.
>>  
>> We didnt defeat the British with high tech.
>>  
>> Low tech will always be the biggest of threats. A little bit of publicly 
>> available info combined with a little industry knowledge and a motivated guy 
>> can wreak a whole lot of havoc and a group of motivated individuals can shut 
>> down a nation.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any 
>>> ideas - but still. 
>>> 
>>> What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some 
>>> time. 
>>> 
>>> Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and 
>>> planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a 
>>> massive tin projectile. 
>>> 
>>> How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with 
>>> explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St 
>>> Louis, Chicago and San Jose?
>>> 
>>> Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. 
>>> 
>>> You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services 
>>> out and data crippled you could do something else even more major. 
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