I have bought the APC packs.  Expensive, but it fits in the rack so nice.
Hopefully they're sticking through!

I can't rotate the "good" ones anywhere else, they're different size
batteries than everything else unfortunately.

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> We get 1 to 7 years on the apc packs.
> At that price for that ah, I'd replace them all, hold onto the "good" ones
> and rotate them into the noc
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020, 4:18 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> >Also, that’s a lot more amp hours than the internal batteries, so even
>> with an XL, I would expect it to take a long time to recharge the batteries
>> after an outage.
>>
>> Sure, it takes a good hour or few.  Once power comes back I don't care.
>> I just want my multi hour run time back!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 5:09 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> 6 years is beyond what I’d expect for battery life on that system.  I
>>> would probably replace them every 3 years even if they never get discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, that’s a lot more amp hours than the internal batteries, so even
>>> with an XL, I would expect it to take a long time to recharge the batteries
>>> after an outage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:04 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Custom batteries on APC Smart UPS 750XL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I'm just going to replace all 4 of them then (12v batteries wired
>>> for 24v).  No sense in trying to figure out which one is bad IMO - $300 and
>>> a wrench I'll be done in an hour.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the sanity check!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, best to periodically discharge it and take volts per cell or volts
>>> per battery every few minutes.  The bad cell/battery will start to make
>>> itself evident very quickly.  I have a charger setup that does this for me
>>> automatically.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:48 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Custom batteries on APC Smart UPS 750XL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These batteries: https://www.batteriesplus.com/productdetails/97=479=1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I first installed this system just under 6 years ago.  We've lost power
>>> a couple of times, but only for a short while (30-45 minutes).  I remember
>>> it saying something stupid like 7 hours of run time.  I have no idea how
>>> APC calculates this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Today we had another outage, where a phase went out, and it switched
>>> over to batteries again.  It said something like 30 minutes of run time!
>>> Luckily I ran upstairs and after 10-15 minutes, it was really pissed that
>>> it didn't have power and angrily beeped that it was nearly ready to give up
>>> (at which point I put it on the generator).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After a few hours we got utility back up and I moved the UPS back over.
>>> After lunch I wanted to test the battery voltages, but in the 5 seconds it
>>> was unplugged it got really pissed again so I plugged it back in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With the charger on it, each battery individually is showing me 13.83v.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the first 10 minutes of the day without power, battery voltage went
>>> from 27.6 down to 22.36.  This confirms I have at least one bad battery,
>>> right?  The load is roughly ~83 watts according to the UPS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
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