I do have an IX (with partners), but I also run two ISPs (one I own, the other 
I don't). 


Forcing checks through two different upstream ISPs will be difficult. You have 
CIRBN (which uses Telia and Cogent) and Mediacom (which have Telia, GTT, Level 
3, Hurricane, and Comcast as upstream providers and peers with a bunch of other 
providers, including Cogent.). 


Since you won't be able to force anything on the greater Internet, aside from 
launching the probes specifically from within Mediacom and within CIRBN, you'll 
have to play whack-a-mole with your hosting facilities. 




    1. Because Telia has both CIRBN and Mediacom as a transit customer, you'll 
have to avoid anyone that has Telia in their mix. 
    2. Because Cogent has CIRBN as a transit customer and Mediacom as a peer, 
your Cogent traffic will go via CIRBN until the CIRBN connection to Cogent goes 
down, then it'll go over the peer to Mediacom. 
    3. Because GTT, Level 3, Hurricane, and Comcast have Mediacom as a transit 
customer and no direct relationship to CIRBN, their traffic will go via 
Mediacom until the Mediacom connection fails. 



You'll also need to keep these things in mind. 




    1. You'll need to choose your host that complies with the above as narrowly 
as possible to best ensure the traffic goes the way you intend for it to go. 
The standard (and most logical) way traffic flows is customer is preferred over 
peer and peer is preferred over transit. 
    2. You'll need to watch to make sure that whatever hosts you use to monitor 
don't change their transit\peer mix as that could upset your assumptions on 
traffic flow. 
    3. The further you are away from your network, the more likely the traffic 
will take a path that is not desired. 
    4. You'll need to make sure that whatever network your probes come in on 
(CIRBN\Mediacom), that the replies return via that same network, if you're 
wishing to test that network bidirectionally. This could be accomplished by 
static /32 routes for each remote VPS forcing out the particular provider you 
wish to test. 





You *may* also be able to find a service like ThousandEyes that will allow you 
to test as you desire without building all of the infrastructure to do so. 







----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 10:37:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mess around VPS 


So you're an exchange. What if I'm wanting to monitor innbound connectivity to 
specific hosts across both our providers? Hows a guy do that? 


On Thu, Dec 31, 2020, 12:45 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 




I use Steadfast out of Chicago for when I care about the quality of the network 
connectivity feeding it. 




Otherwise, I use Hetzner as it's the absolute cheapest. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:21:04 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] mess around VPS 


Whats a decent cheap hosted solution? I keep a vmware instance up I toss crap 
on here and there. today may be a chr, tommorrow may be a librenms rebuild, 
next day ill build half a Cacti server because this time im finally gonna learn 
to operate it, then ill switch to a windows box for some application i need to 
test. I usually sit n 50-300gb of idle VMs. 


Like right now Im needing inbound monitoring to some problematic customers, I 
really just want a multiping instance running overnight. 


I prefer to manage access via an external mikrotik or fortigate. 


Whats decent and cheap, cheap being key since its only semi production use. 


I dont understand AWS 


ionos.com looks pretty fair, but I dont know anything about it 

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