That would be roughly 14 deep cycle boat batteries (if you're doing things
on the cheap)... realistically, 16, if you're doing 48v.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:16 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Out of curiousity, what does 16kwh storage look like? That seems to be a
> lot of battery.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 1:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Assuming a hard to get to place, higher latitude with a real winter, I
>> would
>> say:
>>
>> 1000W of panel.  (20X load)
>> 16 kWh storage.  (14 days autonomy)
>>
>> So right in line with Bill's recommendation.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bill Prince
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar/Battery for Micro-PoP
>>
>> If your load is 50W, then you need to deal with ~~ 1.2 KWH of energy
>> usage per day (50*24).
>>
>> We don't know your latitude, or location, so you will have to plug in
>> whatever solar values are typical for your area. However, a good rule of
>> thumb for mid-latitude areas is to have enough battery for 10 days of
>> operation without sun. So you will need about 12KWH of battery storage.
>> If you're using lead acid batteries, double that for 24KWH of storage.
>>
>> Then you will need enough solar for you to recover that in one or two
>> days. For example, if you have 1200 watts of solar, you can typically
>> expect to get back 4.8KWH per day (5 hour day at 80%).
>>
>> A 48V system would be the most efficient. It will require smaller wires,
>> and converting from 48->24 is more efficient than the other way around.
>>
>> Separately, I would suggest to examine your sanity for thinking you
>> might be the only one in the US to make TVWS actually work.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/12/2021 10:42 AM, D. Bernardi wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm considering some fixed wireless (TVWS) trials and/or the ability to
>> > deliver temporary service where there's no available power source. I've
>> > done some basic solar system calculations (and there are plenty of
>> > calculators) but I'm looking for some real world pointers from those
>> that
>> > have deployed off-grid micro-PoPs.
>> >
>> > DC only, no inverters required. We may need 24v PoE and 48v PoE so
>> would a
>> > 48v system with step down to 24v be more efficient than 12v or 24v with
>> a
>> > step up?  Other trade-offs to consider for 12v/24v/48v storage systems?
>> >
>> > I don't have actual load measurements yet but at this point I'm
>> currently
>> > sizing for a 50w load.  The base station and backhaul radios combined
>> > should be ~ 30w.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dave B.
>> >
>>
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