I figure it’s more like the Swiss army knife.   Very handy but never really the 
right tool for the job.   Works great until the blade breaks and you stab 
yourself.

Mark

> On Jan 19, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> A student of mine once stated, “The best thing about MikroTik is that it does 
> everything, the worst thing about Mikrotik is that it does everything.”
>  
>  
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> Dennis Burgess
> 
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>  
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> From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf 
> Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>  
> I couldn't tell you why it's only 450 days. Maybe I upgraded the OS at that 
> time. Maybe someone was screwing around in the cabinet and unplugged it. It 
> is in Equinix CH1, maybe Equinix lost power.  ;-)
>  
>  
> It probably should have a lesser uptime as I should be more consistent with 
> OS upgrades, but it's firewalled from the world, so the risk is mitigated. My 
> point was to illustrate that in general, Mikrotik is reliable. There may be 
> edge cases that aren't. There are configurations that aren't.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:45:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
> 
> Wimpy.
>  
> <image006.png>
>  
> Of course it locked up today :-)
>  
> Mark
>  
> On Jan 18, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>  
> "Anything that doesn't stay up pretty much constantly without needing reboots 
> or services reset I would consider not stable."
>  
> So then Mikrotik should be fine.
>  
> <Cermak Bottom Cogent.png>
>  
> 450 day router uptime, 446 day BGP session uptime to the second router at 
> that location, 306 day BGP session uptime to Cogent.
>  
>  
> Seems to work pretty good here.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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> From: "Ryan Ray" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:19:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
> 
> Anything that doesn't stay up pretty much constantly without needing reboots 
> or services reset I would consider not stable. 
>  
> Our OSPF and BGP on Mikrotik has not been flawless, but it has been flawless 
> on our juniper mx204 edge routers. 
>  
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 1:06 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> There are definitely some weak spots (route filters can be finicky and 
> sometimes require senseless manipulation to recover from), but I wouldn't say 
> it's not stable.
> 
> 
> 
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> Mike Hammett
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> From: "Ryan Ray" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:03:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
> 
> Cause it's not a stable platform.
>  
>  
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Why would you be surprised when Mikrotik worked?
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "Dev" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
> 
> Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than MT, a lot 
> easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky. People are 
> surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when Juniper doesn’t, 
> that’s the difference.
>  
> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>  
> I use it for my FTTH delivery system.  GPON.  
>  
> From: Josh Baird
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 9:19 AM
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