Well if you're doing 572 GPON ports that's a different story.

I'm looking at 72-96.

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:34 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> As many as I can get.  I have 572 strands of fiber leaving the C.O.  Put a
> splitter on each strand and I will need another shelf.  I can’t see any
> reason to use an E7-2.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Well...the 20 blades...
>
> What made you go with a 20 instead of scaling up with a 2?  How many
> customers are you looking at?
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:01 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have one E7-20 so nothing really to keep on sync, right.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> You don't want to do the e7 directly.  You want to use CMS.  This keeps
>> them all in sync.
>>
>> Ultimately you want to be using AXOS and SMx, though...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:12 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> CMS or just log directly into the E7 shelf.  Easy.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:02 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCPatriot
>>>
>>> Are you using SMX?  How are you adding the FSAN?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:11 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am 100% Calix E7.  Not sure I need to get too fancy with
>>>> authentication and dhcp.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Charles Boening <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Right.  We have our telco backend billing system (MACC) and some other
>>>> custom stuff we handle it all out of.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We use an in-house developed user management system for creating
>>>> logins, managing email accounts and assigning radios/routers for
>>>> provisioning.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We’re mostly Cambium at this point.  Working on a few legacy WiMAX
>>>> conversions still.  It’s all RADIUS for bandwidth settings, VLANs and such
>>>> though for both systems.  We just put the user in the system with the radio
>>>> MAC and a billing code.  The rest is handled by a custom RADIUS
>>>> authentication module we wrote.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are using SmartRG and Calix routers.  Since we have them in
>>>> inventory already, we assign the MAC to the customer and it’s automatically
>>>> authenticated with the Patriot system.  Disconnects are automatically
>>>> suspended.  A router swap will suspend the old device and authenticate the
>>>> new device.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unknown wireless radios aren’t authorized and known radios not assigned
>>>> to a customer get a 256k/256k plan.  😊
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We also enforce simultaneous use from the Patriot system.  If a
>>>> customer has our router then connects their own, the original lease would
>>>> be suspended on expiration.  If they reconnect the other router, it’s
>>>> suspended so they would have to authenticate again.  If they try to
>>>> authenticate multiple devices, the leases will expire and they will have to
>>>> login again.  There is also a simultaneous use report from the Patriot
>>>> system we can look at.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2021 6:57 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCPatriot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links,
>>>> or sharing sensitive information.
>>>>
>>>> So I take it you don't run a Powercode/Sonar/VISP/etc?  Instead you run
>>>> DHCPatriot?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
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>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>>> Troy, OH 45373
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 10:30 PM Charles Boening <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It does run Linux under the hood and I believe ISC DHCP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, I think they have tapped into the lease hooks ISC provided
>>>> and run custom scripts.  I’ve never seen the code but that’s what I expect
>>>> based on some ISC customization I’ve done to populate database information
>>>> when a lease is issued or released.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Charles Boening*
>>>>
>>>> *Network Manager*
>>>>
>>>> 800-858-2399 | Office
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Craig Baird
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:41 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCPatriot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links,
>>>> or sharing sensitive information.
>>>>
>>>> The telco I sold my WISP to used it as well. I always wondered why, but
>>>> never asked. I just assumed it was one of those "If it's free, it can't be
>>>> good" decisions made by a pointy-haired boss. I just checked into their
>>>> website. There's a chart there on the home page that shows how obviously
>>>> awesome it is and how obviously un-awesome the open source ones are. Mostly
>>>> marketing hype I'd guess. In fact, I'd bet it's an open source DHCP server
>>>> dressed up in a pretty package with fancy reports and such.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 6:49 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is it?
>>>>
>>>> I can Google it.
>>>>
>>>> But it doesnt seem interesting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 12:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A company I am partnered with uses DHCPatriot to serve all of its
>>>> customers.  I have never understood what is magic about this compared to
>>>> free DHCP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone here use it?
>>>>
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