Long ago, shared a similar problem with a SCADA 900MHz link...we ended up
installing a two way splitter, two pigtails and two Yagis at about six feet
a part...solved the issue...I had forgotten about that...
I remember the space and frequency diversity discussions.

Steve...sometimes a little bit of elevation helps.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 2:47 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> this is one that was part of a group of similar issues. We had one that is
> white paper level multipath. I can tell you the day and time they start the
> harvest across the street and the time they finish it. that one we ended up
> just installing 2 radios and they swap power supplies twice a year.
>
> this one is facing west and looking at it the dips begin sharply around
> 4pm the last week, around noon the week before. thats about the time it
> starts to cool back down, not that its all that warm. its muddy fields so
> the surface is soggier in the day, firms up more when it cools. yesterday
> was super windy and it didnt do it, probably the soil is dryer.
>
> IIRC i have her radio right now peaking over the ridge of the roof from
> her tower.
>
> Im planning on going out and putting it on a 12 foot post to halve the
> fresnel, sable marginal is better than unstable marginal.
>
> the first guy i mentioned here is actually a pretty cool case. this
> general region is super high iron content in the soil, we have another area
> this is really common and their soil samples are really high as well, i
> dont know if iron oxide is more reflective han dirt dirt or if certain
> circumstances make it that way. or could be whatever causes the soil to be
> more iron rich causes it. or soil content could have nothing to do with it.
> I had gotten the sample results from a soil testing joint thats a customer,
> thought i could figure it out but its one of those things somebody smarter
> than me could probably figure out.
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM Brian Webster <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Doe this customer have the issue at a certain time of the day? Maybe
>> around sunrise or sunset. It may be possible that it’s not multipath but at
>> certain times of the year the antenna has a good path to picking up noise
>> from the sun and that could be stronger than your AP signal? This usually
>> is exhibited on paths that have an East/West orientation. Depending on the
>> gain of the antenna it can be worse than others. Think of the sun either
>> just above the horizon at sunrise or sunset and the focal beam on the
>> antenna is such that it picks up that noise enough to be stronger than the
>> AP. Depending on the time of year, tilt angle of the Earth etc., it looks
>> like a seasonal issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:36 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector
>>
>>
>>
>> our APs sit between 90 and 110 feet on average in flat terrain so we deal
>> with alot of seasonal ground reflectivity issues. We have this one customer
>> presenting again with whats probably multipath fading, I had tried putting
>> a shield on the bottom half of the reflector once out of curiosity. It
>> didnt do much
>>
>> what im wondering though is how the ground reflected multipath feeds into
>> the feedhorn.
>>
>> is it reflecting off the top half of the dish and into the feedhorn like
>> a mirror?
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