That wall is nothing a horizontal drill cant get through.

Wireless will be gadget centric. It wont be a medium of last mile, it will
be the end user medium. Realistically, for any notable distance we max our
industry capacity at 1.2 to 2 reliable gbps now, that wont increase by any
notable amount.

Eventually somebody will figure out a low latency high capacity ground
transfer, then we just tie a copper chain to our nuts that drags around
behind us from our pant leg and keeps the musk neural implant synced with
the cloud



On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 9:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's what I'm seeing as well I guess.  Can't get more SNR, can't get
> more hertz.
>
> The only path to improvement I see is really big beam forming array with
> even more MU-MIMO chains.  Cost will go up accordingly I think.
>
> The alternate path would be millimeter wave with all the obvious caveats.
> Not trying to be a doomsayer, but I'm seeing a wall in front of me.
>
>
> On 3/25/2021 6:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> It's seems to me that it would require a pretty radical change for fixed
> wireless to progress a whole lot beyond what it's currently capable of.
> Maybe 6ghz being opened up will allow for using much wider channels, and
> keep things interesting, but I don't see things like MU-MIMO being more
> than an incremental improvement, like practically everything over the past
> decade or so.
>
> 60ghz has the potential to be a true competitor to fiber, but that's going
> to require a completely different network design than what we're used to.
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> In 10 years it will be trending to niche market for home use. We will
>> have fiber to the farm so it is what it is.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:26 AM jerry bickle <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Best to watch The Simpson’s for a glimpse into the future.  I’m pretty
>>> sure there’s time travel involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think RF Design hasn’t evolved much.  Simple N=1 reuse and cell splits
>>> are the method that’s been used successfully for decades.  Going smaller
>>> isn’t innovative.  MiMo is a big leap however.  Broader channels are the
>>> only way to deliver huge bandwidth.  Going higher and higher QAM doesn’t
>>> work well for mobile handsets and the diminishing returns and crazy timing
>>> necessary to maintain a high QAM other than a lab are not practical.  Small
>>> cells are UGLY.  They’re also close to the people and EMR is a concern to
>>> many.  The FCC has guidelines that I do trust but we’re not dealing with
>>> sites that are 100’ tall and every 1/2 mile now.  They’re on just about
>>> every street corner.  Most carriers are digging up the streets to bring
>>> fiber to each of these poles.  It’s an expensive deployment.  802.11ax is
>>> the best innovation I’ve seen and it is truly 5G more than anything else
>>> that’s out there.  8x8 and 12x12 MiMo and color coded streams for
>>> interference mitigation are a big difference maker.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry Bickle
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
>>> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the next 5
>>> years?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to think about
>>>
>>> how manufacturers will meet that going forward.  I'm assuming we can't
>>>
>>> count on bigger channels or more spectrum.  So what then?  More MU-MIMO
>>>
>>> chains?  Or is it going to have to be street level small cells (60ghz
>>>
>>> etc)?  Or something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We're investing heavily in fiber, as I know a lot of you are, but the
>>>
>>> wireless customers aren't going to go away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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