Children grow.  Would need constant inventory cycling and training to get them 
to respond to their proper call sign.....  Plus they eat a lot when they get to 
a certain size.

My personal preference would be to just have a fleet of trunk monkeys......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8iAVwt_Yc

Much more versatile....  Could take away half of Steve's moonlighting 
opportunities (or increase them if he gets his own fleet) with all the things 
they could be used for in addition to maintaining passwords.

From: Dietrich Rushing 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 12:18 PM
To: James Howard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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We should just use children instead. An even better use of space and they are 
more compliant. I hear they can even be armed!
On 3/31/21 8:46 AM, James Howard wrote:
Stacked in the basement.   Much more efficient space usage.

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Why midgets though?  Could be people of any height.
On 3/30/2021 4:45 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
It seems like a reasonable solution to me. And if they're well-armed, it will 
also be quite secure.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:25 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Im am unopposed to this

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:49 PM Mike Hammett 
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Well right, but there's not really any way around that, short of having a bunch 
of midgets you keep stacked in the basement with passwords written on their 
foreheads and you summon them by yelling the name of the site or service you 
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I think Steve's point is that if you have all of your stuff stored in one 
place, if somebody gets access to that place, they have all your stuff. Whether 
that place is Lastpass, a TXT file or a forehead isn't particularly important.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:23 PM Mike Hammett 
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Right, I read that. That doesn't mean anything. It could have just as well said 
that they were previously stored in a TXT file on the desktop or written 
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from the sounds of it thats how they gained the access

Adam says the attacker(s) had access to privileged credentials that were 
previously stored in the LastPass<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass> 
account of a Ubiquiti IT employee, and gained root administrator access to all 
Ubiquiti AWS accounts, including all S3 data buckets, all application logs, all 
databases, all user database credentials, and secrets required to forge single 
sign-on (SSO) cookies.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mike Hammett 
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I don't know that LastPass really had anything to do with it, other than that's 
where someone stored a password.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:06:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti played fast and loose with the truth?
hahaha, lastpass. I like to keep all eggs in a single basket, that way when i 
have both hands in the cookie jar, all a guy need to do is walk off with the 
basket and make an omelette

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:59 PM Cameron Crum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We are shocked. SHOCKED I say!

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:18 PM Robert Andrews 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I guess I should have not just put in a link without commenting...

So:

Why am I surprised?

On 03/30/2021 11:15 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/
>
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