One point, there is no "time to mutate" False science begets false
knowledge. The virus mutates based upon number of copies made. So
higher infection rates ( Like getting everybody infected to reach herd
immunity via infection ) produces more mutations, regardless of time
frame. And going that route in April of last year would have given us
a host of mutations with no vaccine. Yep you could have killed a full
million by October on that route. So don't mind if I ignore your
"science" from here on out...
The mask debacle was a mistake. They should have trusted people
with the truth, because they fought the battle against mask hoarders
even with the false narrative. They should have said even non-n95
masks make a difference, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT. Took research and
rediscovering what they knew way back when to figure it out again.
On 4/6/21 7:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
By all means take any precaution you wish. People at risk should.
But don't impose your beliefs on others. If you see a non mask wearer
- stay away from them. Go ahead and live your life in fear. The way
things are going right now, this will never end. We tried your way,
it didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers. In fact it
bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a
N95 so don't bother. Then they said wear the mask, now you need to
wear 3. This is a clown show. It is time to try a different way.
The quickest way to immunity and return to normal life. If you do
anything that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating
for big pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing
body.
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*From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
*To: *"af" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
out in
large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
getting
infected?
I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
The issue comes because people say "oooo yah... I'm at home don't cha
know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
through
who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat
next to
someone not in their immediate family.
Do masks work?
You tell me .... I was talking 4 feet from my SIL who somehow got
COVID
and so far I have no symptoms. This was 3 days before she shows
symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
We were both wearing masks.
The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as
long as
it doesn't harm others.
I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think
the
numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
into the contagion. We're adults and can make decisions for
ourselves.
Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
> actually get it that die or have some lingering issues. Not to
mention
> there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
> lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread. It
certainly has
> eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
>
> This is a situation I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
off and
> go on with our lives. Those who are at high risk should take
> precautions. The quicker we develop this immunity as a human
race, the
> better off we are in the long run.
>
> People here and relatives I've talked to all across North
America are
> all fed up and had enough of this nonsense. It is only a matter
of time
> before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
> jackboots to get people to "conform". The kool aid is running
out and
> we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of
Texas.
>
> Disclaimer: It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take
> precautions to protect themselves.
>
>
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> *From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Josh
Luthman" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of
April 4th).
>
> Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.
>
> That's practically non-existent.
>
> Live life, or don't. Just don't complain when other's live
their life.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com <http://www.brazoswifi.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>; Josh Luthman
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.
>
> Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.
>
> My County has about 34 new cases per day.
>
> On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases? Hmm sure
seems
> > like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
> > <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >
> > Same here....
> >
> > Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
> >
> > On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> > > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics
and lax
> > attitude
> > > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
> > <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Is her daughter still involved with the
organization?
> > >
> > > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
<https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php>
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I keep refraining from making a joke at
Trina’s expense.
> > > I always got along with her just fine. I
thought she was
> > a hoot.
> > > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone
> something like
> > > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success
unless
> they have
> > > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of
whisky in
> > her hand.
> > > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> > > Is her daughter still involved with the
organization?
> > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to
WISPAMERICA?
> > > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> > > We had basically decided a while ago to not do
any
> business
> > > travel before June 1st, unless something major
> > changed. So
> > > we didn't make any plans. Part of what we were
waiting
> > for was
> > > for either cases to settle down a lot more
than they
> are even
> > > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk
factors down to
> > where
> > > I was more comfortable in attending.
> > > As it turns out, it probably would have been
ok for us to
> > go as
> > > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a
couple of
> weeks
> > > before the show. But, unfortunately, as a
vendor it's not
> > > really possible to get everything together
that quickly to
> > > attend. Plus we have some internal projects in
> progress we
> > > would have to put on hold which can't really
be put on
> > hold at
> > > this point. So we're going to have to miss
this one.
> > > Assuming everything continues trending in the
right
> > direction,
> > > we'll be in vegas. We also have a show in I
think
> > August that
> > > we're planning on attending.
> > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Im waiting for vegas show
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > >> Definitely time to go to an actual show
and I know
> > I'll be
> > >> there. Be nice to see people in person
finally.
> > >> Josh Luthman
> > >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> > >> 1100 Wayne St
> > >> Suite 1337
> > >> Troy, OH 45373
> > >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
> > >> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Sam,
> > >>
> > >> I'll be there. I think turn-out will be
> pretty good
> > >> all things considering... but
probably 2017-2018
> > type
> > >> attendance levels than what WISPA was
> projecting for
> > >> WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
> > >>
> > >> WA historically has been the
"engineering" show.
> > >> Deeper dives. An "Animal Farm" track
> (vendors doing
> > >> their deep dives like the old and
much cherished
> > >> Animal Farm shows). Turn-out is
always smaller
> > >> because there are less
business/accounting/HR
> > focused
> > >> tracks.
> > >>
> > >> Obviously the circumstances could be
better -
> but WA
> > >> has a very different feel than
WISPAPALOOZA.
> I love
> > >> both shows (and I'm not just saying
that).
> > >>
> > >> photograph
> > >> Daniel White
> > >> Co-Founder
> > >> phone:+1 (702) 470-2770
> > >> direct:+1 (702) 470-2766
> > >>
> > >>> Sam Lambie
> > >>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
> > >>> Just wondering if during these
unprecedented
> > times if
> > >>> there will be a crowd or a ghost town in
> > Grapevine TX.
> > >>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza
shows a
> couple of
> > >>> times, is this any more informative
and better
> > >>> organized or??
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