We are a nobody wisp in the armpit of america. All it took was an 11ghz
link to have two upstreams and bgp.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 1:25 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

> It depends... reasonable people generally appreciate having some kind of
> service, but a lot of people seem to get more upset about having a
> partially working connection than no connection at all.
> It depends on how badly it's crippled too... you could probably get by
> with a backup that was only capable of about half your normal bandwidth
> without most people noticing the difference.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:14 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I used to think that, but anymore, unless they can stream video, the
>> internet is down.  Businesses are different, but residential, if they're
>> only partially working, they're 'down' according to the customer.
>>
>> On 7/26/2021 1:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> Even a low bandwidth cripple route is better than no alternate route.
>> I wonder how easy it would be to set up a traffic shaper that would block
>> all streaming when you were on your alternate low BW backup?  Just let
>> email and web traffic flow.
>>
>> *From:* Jan-GAMs
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2021 11:59 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber
>>
>>
>> It kind of does, doesn't it.  There aren't that many choices in rural
>> America, choices have to be existent in order to get chosen.  And they have
>> to be affordable and not in the realm of unaffordobtanium.
>> On 7/26/21 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Kinda sounds like the residential guy with a $44.95/mo lowest speed plan
>> complaining he's losing millions on his eBay auctions.
>>
>> If the uptime is worth it, you need redundancy.  Fiber has problems.
>> Wireless has problems.  Electronics and software have problems.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:40 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Must be nice having unlimited access to resources
>>> On 7/24/21 9:23 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Get a backup connection and use BGP. Not rocket science
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 5:38 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5 minutes before the auction starts for the 4H club, the fiber backhaul
>>>> somewhere gets cut.  Several counties got disconnected. Now a whole lot
>>>> of kids didn't get to sell.  Can you believe this shit?  Of course
>>>> because we're on-site we get the blame.
>>>>
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