If someone gets a bit too hot and it loses its hardness, you can heat it up to 
cherry red, hold for a minute and then dunk in motor oil.  Good trick for old 
chisels too.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Drill Bits

i quit caring about installers having good bits the billionth time i told them 
that you dont use them on rock, and if you are using rock with the right bit or 
not you need a hammer drill, and no, your impact isnt a hammer drill, and your 
long bit goes back in the tube, not on a pile of gear on the floor. F those 
tower monkeys, let them get their own bits

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:47 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

  Aluminum can be worked with wood working tools, no problem.  I use wood 
  routers, chop saws etc on aluminum all the time.
  One tip I learned after ruining carpets in double wides.  Put the drill in 
  reverse when drilling through carpet.

  -----Original Message----- 
  From: Adam Moffett
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 5:32 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Drill Bits

  When I did installs every day I would use the same 5/16" drill bit for
  6-12 months.  I know I could have sharpened them, but it was easier to
  just get another one at Lowes.

  IMO drill slower so it doesn't get too hot.  When you're going through
  metal set the drill on the lowest speed and use moderate pressure.  You
  want to see little flakes coming off the metal rather than dust.  If the
  metal is thick then put some oil on the bit to conduct heat away.  WD-40
  will work in a pinch, or a little can of 3-in-1 oil with the dropper
  tip.  Even on wood, don't go full speed unless it's a short hole.  When
  the wood is real chewy you might have to back out and in to clear debris
  and let the tip rest.  If you're getting smoke you're trashing that
  bit.  Aluminum siding is so thin I can't believe that's what ruins your
  bits.


  On 8/9/2021 6:02 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
  > We've been getting the installer drill bits at the local big box store. 
  > The 1/4"x18" bit with the hole in the flute to hook the wire on and pull 
  > back.  They are cheap, and have the lifespan to show. Drill a couple 
  > aluminum siding houses and it's time for a new one. I'm looking to get 
  > them higher quality ones.  They seem hard to locate at other distributors. 
  > Am I calling them the wrong thing? I was searching for either 'bell hanger 
  > bit' or 'installer bit'  I found some on Amazon, but they are probably 
  > about the same quality as the bigbox ones.
  >
  > I found one at Grainer that is backordered several weeks, and I haven't 
  > found one at McMaster yet.  Am I calling them the wrong thing?
  >

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