Probably better luck finding a 10mm wrench

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 4:26 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, they just had to find a laptop that had a serial port on it.  They
> probably only are issued company tablets.
>
> On 10/5/2021 4:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Id like to think some lowly janitor was picked up from his vacation by a
> helicopter right from his john boat on the lake, whisked to an airport and
> loaded onto a leer jet to california, then police escorted to FB HQ to pull
> out his big ol key ring and open the door
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:12 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Probably more like some kind of automation with a bug in it.  I got a
>> kick out of FB actually saying that this caused some of their people to be
>> physically locked out of data center equipment they needed to access to fix
>> it.  I don’t think I would have ever admitted that.
>>
>> *From:* Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 5, 2021 2:45 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage
>>
>> I think the more plausible explanation is that Zuckerberg was in a bar
>> with some guys he was trying to impress saying something like 'I do SO run
>> Facebook' and then whips out his phone and instead of deleting their
>> profile, he presses the 'delete all' button by accident.
>>
>> I've been at some small businesses where they can't change an Ethernet
>> port speed without a 3 person peer review of the config update,  I have
>> trouble believing that one guy mistyped something.
>>
>> On 10/5/2021 12:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> ill bet whatever their process was, its not what it is and delayed
>> commits/fallbacks are instituted forthwith. Not by the guy who committed
>> this set of changes though, hes at the bottom of a river now
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:13 PM Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if they did a "commit confirmed 30”? If not, would that have
>>> avoided the whole thing?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "an engineer put in a config change on a BGP router that propagated to
>>> the other BGP routers and cut off access"
>>>
>>> Sounds like something I would do which is why I generally insist on
>>> having a remote tech physically in the building with a console cable if I
>>> don't have OOB console access when changing BGP on my edge.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:34 AM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FB has posted that an engineer put in a config change on a BGP router
>>>> that propagated to the other BGP routers and cut off access.  Sounds like
>>>> it took a while to track down the config change.  I do know someone who is
>>>> intimate with that group but he's not talking...   Drinking, but not
>>>> talking...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/5/21 9:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see it differently. In the beginning cloudflare thought something was
>>>> wrong with their systems. It doesn't explain what happened inside facebook,
>>>> probably because only facebook knows what went wrong. That's not
>>>> cloudflare's problem. We may never know what happened at facebook probably
>>>> because it's very embarrassing to facebook.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/5/2021 9:01 AM, Robert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I really don't like that cloudflare posted this, as it doesn't do
>>>> anything to tell why.  It's not a root cause, it's an effect and cloudflare
>>>> looks like they are just trying to say how smart they are.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/5/21 8:40 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/5/2021 7:39 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sign him up for a SNAP card.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Bill Prince mailto:[email protected]
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Heard the Zuch got around $6 or $7 billion trimmed from his net worth
>>>> yesterday. Now he's only worth around $121 billion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/5/2021 6:52 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am very curious what it was that took 6 hours to figure out or undo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> …..but I wouldn’t judge too harshly.  When any contraption gets big and
>>>> complex it’s easy to overlook one seemingly small thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember this XKCD?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <image001.png>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 04, 2021 6:51 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so it turns out FB murdered the announcements for the DNS server
>>>> prefixes, including the registrar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/?fbclid=IwAR1NiZ1N3M-tYQzvTVum8bV5OGpi8nLZkb7lqANzioJ7lkG6mjsqTHvhHMQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This really seems like an elementary design flaw. Even a moron like me
>>>> knows not to poke the DNS subnets all at once, and we probably get way less
>>>> than 1k daily lookups across all the domains we host DNS for. Ill bet
>>>> nobody involved in this makes less than 80k a year. facebook lost 4% stock
>>>> value today attributed to this on top of the almost percent attributed to
>>>> the "whistleblower". I get nervous when I lose the company a number 10
>>>> wrench.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 4:51 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it is alive here again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
>>>>
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 4:44 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yup.  resolving here.  but nothing coming up yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>>>>
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 4:36 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They're back...  ish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Monday, October 4, 2021 1:13:01 PM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] facebook outage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> anyone else feeling alone and isolated without facebook?  I need my
>>>> safe space (no, not myspace) back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> babaahahah.
>>>>
>>>>
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