#5 is super popular, and this winter people will be exceptionally pleased for having them. My niece has a bigger house with half being massive vaulted ceilings. Forced air was costing her a dime to keep that heated. the wood stove took the costs down like 70 percent
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 9:35 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > My sister-in-law still heats her house with something like your #5. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 10/22/2021 3:57 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: > > this is almost identical to the stove(#5) we had at the next house and our > neighbors had something like this(#6). My father later moved to a place > that had this stove(#7) We upgraded from the Franklin for cooking to stove > (#8), it had a built-in crock pot > On 10/21/21 15:54, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Just re read this post. I don’t have to ask my grandparents or even > parents. I did NOT have inside toilet facilities until I was about six > years old. We had an outhouse up by the bunkhouse and wood shed. And we > were not hippies. Just poor dirt farmers. No paint on any of the > buildings. Everything was in black and white. Not meaning tv, just > reality. At least in my memory. Kinda a grapes of wrath experience. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't have kids, but isn't the whole 'parent' mantra that is should be > easier for your kids than it was for you? When my parents got married, > they had $500 between them, and their car got 2 flat tires on their > honeymoon. I never had to experience that. > > I will be the first to agree that kids today are wacked out, They don't > have nearly the grit that i do, and don't think about why they think things > other than it's a popular opinion to have, but I'm curious if that's what > your great great grandparents would think of you. 'You have water INSIDE > the house, and more than 1 person can go to the bathroom at once? And > what's this fancy cold box in your kitchen.' And their grand-parents 'your > house is in permanently in one spot, and you don't have to sharpen your > spear before you hunt?' > On 10/21/2021 1:23 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Piss me off and I’m gonna come and install a radiator in your room... > > We are seeing de-evolution. Skins are thinning, grit is disappearing. > Soon we will have a generation that is killed by exposure to sunlight. > > Glad to have been born at the peak of human development! Go Boomers!!! > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:06 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP > > i read the losers' editorial in their college rag. I so wanted to choke > this entitled little tool. Their lack of understanding how the world > actually functions really concerns me for the future of the planet. > COVID was supposed to resolve much of that issue, I can only hope for > airborn Ebola > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hell, we had kids with rifles and handguns in their lockers during deer >> season. Teachers too. >> Very few kids turned out to be snowflakes. A few fistfights now and then >> gives you grit. >> >> And the funny thing to me is, the guys of my father’s generator that >> fought WW2 (and my great uncle WW1) were tougher than the hubs of hell >> compared to my generation. >> >> I think we are seeing devolution. I read a junk news piece a couple of >> days ago that a college student was triggered because a cis gendered man >> came to the dorms to replace a radiator. They thought that was some kind >> of a crime I guess. >> >> *From:* Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:58 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> Yeah, we didn’t know how good we had it when all we had to do was go sit >> in the school hallway and practice kissing our ass goodby. Now the kids >> get to worry about which loser is going to shoot the school up. >> >> Of course in the 70’s 3/4 of the pickup trucks in the parking lot (which >> was 3/4 of the vehicles) had hunting rifles and shotguns hanging in them. >> You really didn’t want to give everyone an excuse to start shooting at you. >> >> Mark >> >> On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> The good old days. They eject one of our ambassadors and we eject one of >> theirs. Firey speeches, defections. Only one real enemy. Life was good >> and we didn’t even know it. >> >> *From:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:07 AM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> *Cc:* 'Chuck McCown' >> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> >> He is Mikhail Hammetovich. Soviet sleeper agent. >> >> Embedded for cold war. Still ready to activate if Mother Russia calls. >> >> >> >> …..or Google is a dumb machine with just enough logic built in to trick >> us into thinking it’s smart sometimes. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:04 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> >> >> Is your name really Mike? Do you know Mandarin? >> >> >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:52 AM >> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> >> >> Interesting. I sent to my own GMail account and it worked as one would >> expect. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><~WRD0001.jpg> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Carl Peterson" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:43:31 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> Google is giving me a warning about your account. >> >> >> >> The sender’s account may have been compromised. Avoid clicking links, >> downloading attachments, or replying with personal information. If you know >> the sender, consider alerting them (but avoid replying to this email). >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:41 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It's not just the access layer, but the whole ecosystem. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><~WRD0001.jpg> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:19:11 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> Is there any such thing as a GPON system that *isn't* vendor locked? >> >> I'm not specifically defending Calix here, I'm just thinking I haven't >> yet seen GPON equipment that made any assertions about interop with other >> vendors. Unless you went ActiveE aren't you still locked in with whatever >> vendor you went with? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/16/2021 12:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> "no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that isn't >> Calix" >> >> >> >> and welcome to Calix. That's one of the reasons I opted to not go with >> Calix for our fiber system. Just as vendor-locked as Apple and Ubiquiti. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><~WRD0001.jpg> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><~WRD0001.jpg> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Daniel White" mailto:[email protected] >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, October 15, 2021 7:52:15 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP >> >> So with most VoIP devices... you can point them to an auto-provision >> server. When they boot up, they send a request (FTP, HTTP, HTTPS) for the >> config file based on MAC address, the provisioning server creates the file >> or serves up a file already created. >> >> There is no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that >> isn't Calix. That is where the ONT expects to find the SIP credentials. >> There is no way to have the Calix Cloud pull credentials based on MAC >> address from a SIP provisioning server. So the only option you have is to >> manually add the credentials by first creating them on the VoIP platform >> and then entering them into the Calix Cloud. >> >> There could be a way to do this via API... and really there isn't any >> reason I can think of why there is not. But Calix has a hell of a play to >> pay mentality and partnering with them in any way as a vendor is a lot of >> paperwork and bureaucracy. >> >> >> >> <image002.jpg> >> >> >> *Daniel White *Co-Founder >> >> *phone:* +1 (702) 470-2770 >> *direct:* +1 (702) 470-2766 >> >> D. Bernardi >> >> October 15, 2021 at 11:49 >> >> At 01:19 PM 10/15/2021, you wrote: >> >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> boundary="------------D1116C3466A99CAA51BD3FBE" >> Content-Language: en-US >> >> Carl, >> >> We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs (Gigacenter >> and Gigaspire). There is no auto-provision option which is a shame. >> >> >> >> Is TR-069 not an option to provision outside of OMCI? >> >> Daniel White >> Co-Founder >> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 >> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 >> >> Carl Peterson >> October 13, 2021 at 09:21 >> our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks. Any chance you >> could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP >> service? I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it.  >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> PORT NETWORKS >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 >> >> >> Chuck McCown via AF >> October 13, 2021 at 07:59 >> If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> Carl Peterson >> October 13, 2021 at 06:27 >> I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone service. >> In the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive. Is it >> possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS port >> on the ONTs? GPON4 card says it supports VOIP.  >> >> E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> PORT NETWORKS >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> October 15, 2021 at 10:19 >> >> Carl, >> >> We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs (Gigacenter >> and Gigaspire). There is no auto-provision option which is a shame. >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> October 13, 2021 at 09:21 >> >> our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks. Any chance you >> could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP >> service? I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> *PORT NETWORKS* >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 >> >> >> >> Chuck McCown via AF >> >> October 13, 2021 at 07:59 >> >> If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> October 13, 2021 at 06:27 >> >> I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone service. >> In the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive. Is it >> possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS port >> on the ONTs? GPON4 card says it supports VOIP. >> >> >> >> E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> *PORT NETWORKS* >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> *PORT NETWORKS* >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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