That wasn't a serious concern for me, no.  

They tend to leave old product behind and stop supporting it in their various 
softwares.  "old" could be 2 years (Air Vision) or maybe a lot longer, but you 
can't know ahead of time.  If they've pulled the rug out from under me several 
times and yet I keep buying their stuff then at some point it's my own fault.


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 5:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?

Like suing you...

On 12/17/21 12:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Lol
> 
> I actually really like LTU, but I just think it’s safe to assume 
> Ubiquiti will screw me over if I build a business around it.
> 
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via 
> AF
> *Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2021 3:05 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> 
> UBNT still around?
> 
> *From:*Jan-GAMs
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, December 17, 2021 12:29 PM
> 
> *To:*[email protected]
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> 
> Is ubnt LTU not being considered?
> 
> On 12/17/21 11:02, Mathew Howard wrote:
> 
>     Yeah, that...
> 
>     We've had pretty good luck with mmwave if we keep them under 1/4
>     mile or so, but that's about as far as you can push ptmp and keep a
>     reasonably reliable connection. ptp mmwave is useful for several
>     miles, if you use them for the right purposes.
> 
>     On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>         Like extreme short range, they quit in bad weather, things like
>         that?
> 
>         *From:*Mathew Howard
> 
>         *Sent:*Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
> 
>         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> 
>         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> 
>         Well, technically, mmwave radios pretty much do eliminate that
>         problem. It's just that they add a bunch of other problems...
> 
>         On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:18 PM Chuck McCown via AF
>         <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>             Gee guys, I thought the mm wave radios were going to
>             eliminate the problem...
> 
>             *From:*Daniel White
> 
>             *Sent:*Friday, December 17, 2021 10:42 AM
> 
>             *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Jaime Solorza
> 
>             *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] What are you gents using?
> 
>             Better antennas.  Smaller channels.  Closer sites to the
>             subscriber.  Better use of geography to block noise.  Lower
>             AGL of APs on towers.  More antenna gain.
> 
>             This isn't an equipment question really... it is an RF
>             Engineering exercise.
> 
>             All things equal equipment like Cambium 450 will outperform
>             equipment based on wifi chipsets (Cambium ePMP, Mimosa,
>             Ubiquiti).  Beamforming is a big plus (but only helps if the
>             subscribers are distributed).
> 
>             I'd be using 30deg horns on everything I can.  Keep the subs
>             close in, and keep the AP's as low to the ground as possible
>             to prevent picking up distant interference.
> 
>             Image removed by sender. photograph
> 
>               
> 
>             *Daniel White
>             *Co-Founder
> 
>             *phone:*+1 (702) 470-2770
>             *direct:*+1 (702) 470-2766
> 
>                 Jaime Solorza
> 
>                 December 17, 2021 at 09:34
> 
>                 Several WISPs in area are getting hammered with 5GHz
>                 interference especially with DFS hits, the normal
>                 channels are overcrowded...
> 
>                 Ubiquiti and Cambium is mostly what they are using....a
>                 few Mimosa out there but I know one wisp who replaced
>                 all of his with Cambium and 60Ghz AirFiber..
> 
>                 Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
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