Yeah just get a juniper, even if you go used, i think it's a front loaded
investment with a great roi in headaches saved

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:25 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another
> company that has some Cisco big iron there.
> It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such
> that it will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now.
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM
> *To:* Chuck McCown
> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: Dual DIA router
>
> What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a
> switch and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3
> is a good option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router.  Or used router.
>> Last time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper.  I don’t have a
>> ton of customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 in the next
>> 2-3 years.
>> What would be a good value there?  I really don’t want a $25K router
>> right now.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM
>> *To:* TJ Trout
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
>>
>> Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment...  The problem is
>> having the two backhaul circuits.  Maybe I could vlan them.
>> No harm in quoting HE.  Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah?
>>
>> *From:* TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM
>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
>>
>> I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> $950 10G flat.  $30 for bgp.
>>>
>>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:29 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
>>>
>>> Cogent charges for bgp so ask for that in the quote if you need it.
>>>
>>> Hurricane electric is 700-800$ on a 36mo term I believe, some UT
>>> locations with few customers might be an extra $500.
>>>
>>> Telia is a very good option but won't be quite as inexpensive as Cogent
>>> or HE, but they have really good routes and the full internet.
>>>
>>> I can be your advocate on these types of orders, one email and I'll
>>> aggregate the quotes and send them back to you, carriers pay me 10% or so
>>> out of their side of the deal, you still pay the same.
>>>
>>> TJ
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 9:36 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shopping for DIA again.  Asking Cogent to freshen up a quote.  A couple
>>>> of years ago they quoted a special 10G flat for $1200/month.  Hopefully
>>>> that same or better deal is still available.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have other suggestions?
>>>>
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