The default for any carrier is to send the traffic where you get paid vs those 
that you don't. 




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From: "Dennis Burgess" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:06:31 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent 



Ya, like HE always preferring paid peers over free. That has came up a few 
times. 



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From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Justin Wilson (Lists) 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:44 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent 


As with anything there are good and bad. 



Both do some heavy traffic manipulation. Cogent is not very open-internet 
friendly. They do not peer with folks so their entire network is pay to peer. 
This can result in some congestion at major points. Some of the major 
de-peering events have been due to AT&T and others de-peering with cogent 
because of Cogent wanting money to peer. 



Most of Hurricane’s network is either Telia Upstream or peering. This can 
result in some issues as well. 



There is no such thing as a perfect backbone/upstream/transit provider. They 
all have issues. What you want it diversity. When talking to them ask about 
their routes in and out of your location. How much capacity do they have? Are 
they taking the same routes as everyone else? 



Many of the xISPs I see do a blend of Cogent, Hurricane and peering on an IX or 
two. If they want to add some extra diversity they can add in an AT&T, Verizon, 
or other ILEC. With peering they typically don’t need to as a lot o the traffic 
gets shoved off to a good peering fabric. 








Justin Wilson 
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https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog 


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