And I went through an audit, they were not happy with me, but I had a tax 
attorney there.  

When they asked me why I chose to take money in that method I replied “because 
I can”.  
My attorney did not like my answer from a impolitic point of view but everyone 
conceded that I was compliant with tax law.

But it is 100% legal.  Especially if you claim you are part time (which I am) 
and  you are in a board advisory position (which we all are).  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 1:55 PM
To: [email protected] 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Social Security

When I have been in a position to actually take money out of a company, I did 
so via directors fees to avoid FICA.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 1:25 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Social Security

When we were in startup mode, we did not take salaries. However, when we 
started making money, our accountant advised us to take token salaries to avoid 
an IRS audit.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 3/27/2022 11:29 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  I have not collected a paycheck in years.  Yes, positive cash flow and 
growth, but zero or negative net income to the rescue.  Gotta love depreciation 
expense.  

  From: Robert 
  Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 9:20 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Social Security

  At the level of your income, I'll bet that they take most of that back!   
Unless you are one of those sneaky tax dodgers..   Write-offs to the rescue!!!


  On 3/26/22 8:09 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

    I started early just to get the cash flow.  Fortunately I will probably 
never need it for survival.  

    From: Bill Prince 
    Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 8:35 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Social Security

    My sister & brother believed that and both started SS at the earliest they 
could, assuming that it would be gone before they could get their due.

    I waited until I was 70 to maximize what I get. 


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 3/26/2022 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

      Seem all my life I was told SS would not be there when it came time for 
me to apply.  Guess they were wrong.


      Sent from my iPhone


        On Mar 26, 2022, at 6:13 PM, Bill Prince mailto:[email protected] 
wrote:


         
        You realize of course that I (we) paid into social security for over 5 
decades?


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 3/26/2022 3:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

          You damn welfare leeches. Think you can get old and suckle the 
government teat like that. Cyanide pills is the only medication medicare should 
be paying for.  
          You realize its all these old people collecting this welfare that 
puts me out of the earned income bracket. I mean, come on, how do you expect me 
to get those sweet rims and a new flatscreen at tax time if the olds are always 
out there taking my money. They call it an earned income credit, which 
obviously means i earned it... you get social security.. what, youre scared and 
need security now.
          This makes me so mad i could smack my sister cousin marlene right in 
her dentures

          On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, 1:40 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

            That's how they make up for the income tax shortfall.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 3/26/2022 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

              I signed up for social security.  
              And now I get 10 text messages a day hawking loans and welfare 
programs. 

              Surprised the govt sells its info.  Text messages, so they made 
my phone number available.  


               
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