Also not trying to be argumentative but I honestly don’t believe gun laws will 
stop anything.  I’m pretty boring when it comes to life in general. No real 
friends I go out with, no known criminal or gang affiliations of anyone I know. 
 I don’t know any drug dealers and don’t go to bars   However I can and have 
purchased weapons in parking lots of malls and churches off of Facebook 
marketplace and direct through other fun private transfer sites.  I don’t even 
bust the dark web or want to but I’m sure they are available there as well.  
Yeah I know fb bans sale of guns.  It didn’t stop anything.  Neither will gun 
laws.  If I thought they would stop nut cases from getting guns I’d be all for 
it.  It won’t 

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> On May 24, 2022, at 20:00, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Not being argumentative, curious, the guy that shot up the youth camp, where 
> did he get his gun?  I would presume Norway had more strict gun laws than the 
> US.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 24, 2022, at 6:32 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the right. 
>> These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun control.
>> 
>> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be passed. 
>> Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
>> 
>> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do nothing. 
>> They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun nuts happy. 
>> Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.
>> 
>> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and 
>> shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians 
>> and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass 
>> shootings only happen in America.
>> 
>> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if your 
>> party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action! 
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Figuratively inside the lines.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ...you mean outside the lines?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of rules 
>>> and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted 
>>> fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides 
>>> so the profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky 
>>> apshalt oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix 
>>> on it and compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he 
>>> sprayed some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel 
>>> empty his machine.  Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they 
>>> just shut off the burner and pump and add more the next day.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job 
>>> where he emptied his sprayer. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down 
>>> rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with 
>>> the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year 
>>> before.  Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it 
>>> and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to 
>>> get off his work site or I would be arrested.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Bill Prince
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
>>> 
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> but it's organic.
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and 
>>> concrete are environmentally friendly”
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of 
>>> governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile 
>>> road, you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no 
>>> single governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have 
>>> road issues now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And 
>>> if john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at 
>>> mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke 
>>> parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly, 
>>> so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at 
>>> mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at 
>>> mile 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders across his mile.
>>> 
>>> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's, 
>>> they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their 
>>> arguments break down after a little long term logic.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not push 
>>> too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a 
>>> fingerful of shit.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the 
>>> (Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -Sean
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board.  I 
>>> registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet. 
>>> 
>>> …..and then I met the other libertarians.  Some I can relate with and some 
>>> others are absolutely insane. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify as 
>>> libertarian, I don't do that anymore.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren 
>>> Bobert elected lol :-/
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You have to vote libertarian if you want a 
>>> libertarian!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all need to 
>>> go back to bed and get some rest.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -Sean
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, fiscally 
>>> conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  Everyone could use 
>>> some more grit.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never 
>>> affect positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in the trying. 
>>>  Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to 
>>> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he is 
>>> being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I try to teach 
>>> by example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are my 
>>> employee, I address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire 
>>> them. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They invent a noble 
>>> cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially 
>>> impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  Look at 
>>> antifa and proud boys. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same reasons. 
>>>  The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying to 
>>> advance. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Cameron Crum
>>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
>>> 
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally alt-right.  All 
>>> ex-military, all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from substance abuse 
>>> and suffered a variety of mental health issues.  The surviving two are 
>>> always broke, angry, and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around them 
>>> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> …..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for me to pass 
>>> judgement.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels 
>>> fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in Utah feel like 
>>> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just 
>>> to be able to still see some of my kids. 
>>> 
>>> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime 
>>> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims 
>>> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in 
>>> the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Odd times....
>>> 
>>> I loved my parents and grandparents. 
>>> 
>>> Never felt they had to earn it. 
>>> 
>>> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families were 
>>> separate all while the kids were growing.
>>> 
>>> But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact same 
>>> vernacular.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
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