Yes.  If you could get a BLM lease for a large chunk of ground, you could plant 
them and who cares if it takes twice the acrage, $500/hour/megawatt would be a 
nice income stream.  And there is some good math behind just laying them flat 
on the ground, with a tiny bit of angle on the N/S axis so one is oriented to 
the East and one to the West.  They get almost as much energy per day and you 
can utilize 100% of the property if that is an issue.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 12:33 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

I find it pretty hard to believe that a lot of solar panels that get replaced 
just because they're "at the end of their life cycle". I'd bet that there will 
be a decent market for used panels that can still do ~50% of their output.  If 
nothing else, somebody should start collecting them all and fill a nice patch 
of desert with them.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 1:12 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

  OK, hyperbole, the stream of waste has hardly started.  
  Not filling up the landfills.

  The type of waste?  Copper, Selenium?  
  You can buy supplements of those at the drug store.

  Arsenic?  Very little in a panel.  
  And Arsenic has a hormetic effect.  People are healthier if their drinking 
water contains a little vs none.  Not sure this is a significant issue.  Like 
to know more.

  And solar panels degrade about 0.5-1% a year.  The article says many panels 
are coming to the end of their 25 year life.  Hey, I will not uninstall mine 
until they are below 50%.  Just cheap that way.

  I am surprised California is so flat.  Flatter than Nebraska.  This is due to 
the frequent “sky is falling” issues there.....

  Glad to see that Diablo is getting a new lease on life.  Nuclear will solve 
everything.  



  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:26 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels



  Here's a PDF of the article in today's Merc.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 7/15/2022 9:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

    The LA times has an article about CA landfills filling up with solar 
panels.  It is behind a paywall, so I guess I won’t read it.  Sounds like 
hyperbole to me.  First, the all the solar panels in the state, by volume 
probably don’t match a weeks’ worth of municipal solid waste by volume, so that 
is hardly filling up the landfills.  Second, it hints they are toxic.  Really?  
Glass and aluminum.  Silicon dioxide is just purified glass.  Yes, they do have 
dopants in them.  And there is some solder but probably rohs solder.  

    Is there any truth to this?  Secondly, why?  Are there really that many 
worn out solar panels?  I have never had one wear out to the point that I 
disposed of it.  And I have had solar panels of some sort for close to 50 
years.  


     

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