Years ago there was a city bus somewhere that ran off of hydrogen. They used liquid in a dewar, so it boiled off some every day. At least you don't have a pressure issue.

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Yeah I found a source on the web saying it's compressed to 3600-10,000 PSI in a vehicle fuel tank, but not stored as liquid because it has to be chilled to -270c to become liquid.

Still, any gas at 10,000 PSI sounds scary. A punctured tank would decompress like a bomb. If there's an ignition source that must make an impressive fireball. They must use some very rugged fuel tanks. I'll have to trust that the engineers building these things are smarter than me.

-Adam


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I don't think it's practical to liquefy it for hydrogen cars. At higher temperatures, it's easier to make seals that work.


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On 11/4/2022 8:30 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
But don't they have cars that run off Hydrogen?  Do they all leak
too?  I could be driving along next to leaky H-bomb on wheels?

On 11/4/2022 10:25 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Hydrogen is hard to seal because (1) it's the smallest molecule, and
(2) It needs to be ridiculously cold to liquefy. That said, it is the
most energy-dense of the options.

but it's also why SpaceX uses kerosene or methane.

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On 11/4/2022 8:12 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I've only been reading articles in the local paper, why are they
having such a hard time plugging the hydrogen leaks?  Back in
College I worked at Argonne labs, and we used lots of
helium/nitrogen for cryogenics.  I don't remember having leaking
problems.





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