I am thinking that the wound plate and separator were part of the ability to 
freeze with damage.  That batt looks like a regular gel cell.  I used them 
perhaps 20 years ago.  They seemed to work fine.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

After Chuck told me about them I used them at various sites.  This is where 
they're at now: 

https://www.amazon.com/Yuasa-Genuine-NP12-12-Battery-Terminal/dp/B007T6QSDG


On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:41 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

  "request a quote"...  First red flag...


  On 11/30/22 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

    https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/

    From: Chuck McCown via AF 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Cc: Chuck McCown 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

    There used to be a brand called genesys that could take freezing both for 
charge and discharge.  

    From: Nate Burke 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:00 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

    If someone could just make a big hardened battery in an enclosure for 
cheap, that would be nice.  I could stand something the size of a forklift 
battery next to most of my enclosures.  Little box on the side with terminals 
to connect the leads to.  


    On 11/30/2022 1:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

      we tried the jobsite boxes for our 190ah telco batteries, but you can 
only fit 2 batteries and maybe an apc in them. I went to a fabricator to see 
about building some custom cabinets. we had a good laugh, he wanted alot more 
than beer and pizza

      On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

        If you find one, let us know.



        I think the issue is that ideal for you is not ideal for everyone.   My 
ideal would be 48V with 4x100Ah batteries.  

        Someone else’s ideal is just gonna be an AC power strip and a light 
bulb.



        If there was one configuration that would outsell all others, then 
someone would manufacture that box.  



        When I had to build outdoor enclosures on the cheap I used jobsite 
toolboxes 

        
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-32-in-W-x-19-in-H-x-19-in-L-Portable-Jobsite-Storage-Box-RB32/317120068

        You can’t beat that price for that size enclosure.  



        Nowadays I’d build a shed if there’s space, or use DDB Unlimited if 
there isn’t.  I get to play with big boy money now.  



        If you want something built custom to your needs then Alpha 
Technologies will build whatever you want, but be sure to bring your checkbook.



        Or I’ll build whatever you want for a case of beer and a pizza.  My 
lead times are long though.



        -Adam







        From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
        Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:43 PM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
        Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?



        Hi all,



        Looking at options for tiny WISP sites - ideal would be a small outdoor 
cabinet with 120VAC input, 2x 12V 12AH / 18AH batteries, ~27V charger/PSU 
around 5A and a temperature-controlled battery blanket. Is there anything like 
that in the market so I don't have to organize design/build?





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