Only took 50 years to become reality.


From: Robert 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 5:45 PM
To: Chuck McCown via AF 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

One of my childhood favorites, because   Susan Clark...

Colossus: The Forbin Project




On 4/19/23 3:18 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  I remember seeing that at the drive in.  Double feature with Andromeda Strain.

  “This is the voice of Colossus”  AI hooked with an AI in Russia...

  From: Robert 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 3:55 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

  How about the original Colossus?


  On 4/19/23 1:55 PM, James Howard wrote:

    well my Atari 2600 can't do it in a year



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    From: "Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:[email protected]
    Sent: 4/19/23 1:06 PM
    To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

    My arduino nano can do it in a week.



    From: Steven Kenney via AF
    Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:51 AM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    Cc: Steven Kenney
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

    My raspberry pi does it in under an hour. 

    On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:26 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:
      I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's been 
a while.

      I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think it's 
10-15 though.

      On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
<[email protected]> wrote:
        Dennis,

        Using mikrotik routers.

        Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

        One CCR1072 v6.47.9

        Yes taking full tables. 

        Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it. 
 Never established a session.

        Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But 
before I go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new 
CCR2116-12G-4S+ running v7. 


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        Myakka Communications
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        Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

        DB> Really depends on a lot of things.

        DB> 1.What router are you using?
        DB> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
        DB> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
        DB> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

        DB> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time 
is kinda long..  


        DB> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
        DB> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium 
ePMP Certified
        DB> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition"
        DB> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
        DB> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
        DB> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
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        DB> -----Original Message-----
        DB> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
Technologies
        DB> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM
        DB> To: [email protected]
        DB> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question

        DB> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different 
providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and 
traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.

        DB> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet 
while this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the 
process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will new 
faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and hold 
is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD? 

        DB> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best 
conditions? 

        DB> Thanks,
        DB>  Mark                          mailto:[email protected]

        DB> Myakka Communications
        DB> 
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