Most AC/DC and DC/DC power supplies have input/output isolation and neither
side of the output grounded unless/until you ground one side.  If you ground
the - side, then it's referred to as +48V.  If you ground the + side, then
it's -48V.

Fancier equipment with stuff like management interfaces may be dedicated as
+48V or -48V, I have an Eltek Micropack system that can only be used as
-48V.  Lots of stuff from the telecom world may be that way.  Something like
a Mean Well power supply will almost certainly be floating until you ground
one side of the output.

I know a WISP guy who tends to power all his DC+fiber radios with individual
AC/DC power supplies and doesn't ground them.  I am a traditionalist and
want all my power supplies ground referenced, but it seems to work for him.
I guess you could argue it prevents ground loops.

Where we typically run into problems is with the loads like radios and
routers, sometimes they are floating and don't care, some have the + side
grounded, some have the - side grounded.  Chuck was probably saying to check
with an ohmmeter from DC+ and DC- to chassis ground.  I have also been lucky
that when I got it wrong, it just popped a fuse and no magic smoke escaped.
Hopefully you individually fuse all your loads.



-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 10:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse

I know we have been though this many times and I thought I understood it.

-48VDC is the Negative side being HOT, correct?

It is BAD to try to mix -48VDC and 48VDC 

There is no such thing as a -48V battery.  A battery is a battery, correct?

How about the ICT Platinum power supplies.  They show as 48VDC, can they be
used on -48VDC equipment?

I remember Check saying something about a way to test to see if a piece of
equipment that is Neg 48VDC is truly grounded as Neg 48VDC.


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