Way back in 2002 I put screws through the bottom of a set of tennis shoes to get on a roof that we had a repeater on... Dumb ways to die #1002

On 11/20/24 11:14, Steve Jones wrote:
a burning house melts roof snow

But its good you value your employee safety and make that call for them

I remember when i thought i was being loyal and hard working going out to throw  salt on an iced roof so i could get up there to do the install. it partly worked, but was still slick as snot. Id punch a tech if they wanted to do that now. I figure its best if theyr gonna get hurt to do it in the office and not in the field

On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We are supposed to get our first snow tomorrow.  What I don’t like
    is to send a skilled field tech up someone’s roof or TV tower just
to take down a dish, bring it back and throw it in the dumpster. Our area is also spread out enough that it might be months before we
    can do that without driving a significant number of miles.____

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    Maybe I’m just getting cranky as I get old, but I feel like I value
    employees more than customers, especially ex customers who cancelled
    for something cheaper.  It’s easier to get new customers than new
    techs.____

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    *From:*AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *On Behalf Of *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 12:30 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment____

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    There is the old marketing rubric of “constant contact”.  The former
    customer sees your company, sees they are still getting something of
    benefit.  That has intangible benefit. ____

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    In other words, “cast your bread upon the water.  “____

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    It costs little if you use down time and dead head time to pick up
    the gear. ____

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    *From:*Josh Luthman ____

    *Sent:*Wednesday, November 20, 2024 11:23 AM____

    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment____

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    Nope.  It's just business.  Why spend a greater amount to pick up
    the equipment?____

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    On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:44 PM David Hannum <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____

        Josh - I bet your nickname in school was Eeyore . . . ____

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        On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM Josh Luthman
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____

            $25 for a radio for $10 in gas to pick it up, $10 dealing
            with the customer, $10 in caulk/silicon, $10 hearing them
            complain about nothing, $10 in labor costs, $1000 in lost
            revenue because you wasted time picking up a $25 radio
            instead of hooking up a new customer____

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            On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:01 AM David Hannum
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____

                Like Adam, we keep tabs of where the gear is and when we
                are in the area, we swing by and pick it up.  But not
                sure why you'd not want to rescue good radios.  Folks
                like Wireless Units and Surplus Wireless will purchase
                it off you, so don't just arbitrarily abandon it.  $25
                (or whatever they give you) for a used SM is at least
                something for it. ____

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                Dave____

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                On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 8:26 AM Adam Moffett
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:____

                    About the same.  We kept a running list of "pickups"
                    and it would be filler work for the field people.
                    They'd remove the antenna and maybe the cable, but
                    never worried about the POE. ____

                    We usually got to them pretty quick because we left
                    empty spaces in the schedule for service calls, and
                    if there were no service calls we'd go do pickups. ____

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                    On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:30 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos
                    WiFi] <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____

                        We say: "we will grab it the next time we are in
                        the area".____

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                        No special trip.____

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                        Jim____

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                        Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G
                        smartphone____

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                        -------- Original message --------____

                        From: Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> ____

                        Date: 11/18/24 11:16 AM (GMT-06:00) ____

                        To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> ____

                        Subject: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment ____

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                        We are starting to run into cases where
                        customers cancel (most commonly to get T-Mobile
                        Home Internet) and while the CPE is still
perfectly functional we would not redeploy it. Like a Cambium 450 SM with a reflector dish (as
                        opposed to a 450b).  So we don’t want it back,
                        and don’t want to send a tech out to remove it.____

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                        Sometimes customers insist they want us to take
                        it off their house.  Is there some legal
                        obligation for us to do this?  I think if you
                        discontinue DISH or DirecTV and want the sat
                        dish taken down, they don’t come do it (unless
                        maybe you pay to have it done).____

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