You young whippersnappers that need videos.  Back in my day we had to read everything.

https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/

On 2/5/2025 8:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Whoa!  Blast from the past.  I've seen those.

This is the absolute best tho: https://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/salesguy.html

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 8:18 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

    A sample:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8zaSFbO5_8

    He started as a troll and supposedly tired of it and went
    straight, I can’t confirm the second part.

    *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
    *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2025 6:52 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ping time reported in game

    Possibly.  I'm not going to search that as I fully expect I'd
    regret it.

    On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:29 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

        Maybe Steve’s talking about the people who do stuff based on
        ThioJoe Youtube videos.

        *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
        *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2025 9:41 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ping time reported in game

        Use 12ft.io <http://12ft.io> for paywalls - I don't have one
        but it may be an adblocker.

        No that's not me. Most of the games I play are from 1999-2005
        so it only needs a modern potato to run with full graphics.

        On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:33 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
        wrote:

            Is this you?

            
https://www.theverge.com/pc-gaming/606006/nvidia-rtx-5090-egpu-gaming-handheld-oculink-test-pcie-minisforum-deg1

            (sorry if it’s behind a paywall, I have a subscription so
            I’m not sure)

            *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh
            Luthman
            *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2025 8:22 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ping time reported in game

            Hey don't put all of us in one bucket.

            On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 11:00 PM Steve Jones
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                PC gamers are the worst cause they followed some redit
                guide to improve the network card performance. Just
                burn their house down and be done with it

                On Sat, Feb 1, 2025, 8:44 PM Josh Luthman
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    Yes, move closer to the server.  Either that or
                    they can figure out how to break physics.  It
                    takes time to get from one point to another.

                    "Bunch of IP" is probably the 15 other players in
                    his 16 player game. If it's AWS they're probably
                    masquerading it for obvious security reasons.

                    On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 6:47 PM Ken Hohhof
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                        Move closer to the server?

                        I assume you don’t mean if the server is in
                        Virginia, tell the customer to move to Virginia?

                        FWIW, I torched the customer’s traffic trying
                        to determine where the server was, and saw a
                        bunch of IP addresses communicating with his
                        gaming PC.  I took the one with the most
                        traffic, and ping time to it was around 10 ms,
                        but rDNS was
                        blahblahblah.awsglobalaccelerator.com
                        <http://blahblahblah.awsglobalaccelerator.com>
                        I think.  So AWS routes the traffic across a
                        private network supposedly to improve performance?

                        *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf
                        Of *Josh Luthman
                        *Sent:* Saturday, February 1, 2025 4:39 PM
                        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                        <[email protected]>
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ping time reported in game

                        There's no one ping to rule them all, but
                        generally it's the latency of a game packet
                        from gamer to host and back.  It could be a
                        dedicated server or a peer to peer game.  The
                        latter is more common (cheap bastards).

                        The #1 thing you can do to reduce latency is
                        move closer to the server.

                        On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 3:50 PM Bill Prince
                        <[email protected]> wrote:

                            Since they're playing with someone else,
                            I'm betting it has something to do with
                            turnaround time with the gamer they're
                            playing with?

                            bp

                            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                            On 2/1/2025 12:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                                Does anyone here speak gamer?

                                What is the ping time displayed in
                                some games? Someone will tell me it’s
                                like 200 ms, but speedtest.net
                                <http://speedtest.net> reports 15, and
                                a command line ping reports 13 min, 15
                                avg, 20 max.

                                I don’t know what to do with the
                                numbers they quote from the game, they
                                don’t correlate to anything I can measure.

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