Preseem might be more these days, but it seems like before they just ran 
fq_codel or cake, which you can do for free in Linux, then charged per sub so I 
have to rent my subs back from them. Lots of providers are trying to get me to 
rent my subs back from them through cloud, ala Calix.

> On Feb 25, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There's probably no need to do this at the customer level if you're already 
> doing it in the core. With Preseem or something similar, bufferbloat is 
> nonexistent.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025, 1:24 PM Dev <[email protected] 
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>> Anyone using something like Mikrotik (or other vendor) bufferbloat queuing 
>> at the customer router like fq_codel or cake? We’ve seen really good 
>> improvement at the network core, but wanting to know if it helps to push 
>> that out to the customer edge, and what algorithm/hardware does a good job.
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