Bringing it slightly back on topic and the sad news of Scott Adams.
Does anyone remembers the short lived Dilbert TV show from 1999, this
was the opening of one of the episodes
Season 2 Episode 15. 'The Fact'
Remember this episode was from the year 2000
Cold open is Dogbert is expounding how much he likes the internet
because it makes spreading disinformation so much easier. Previously he
would have to do mailings and cold calls, and sometimes going door to door.
Dilbert: "Personally I require scientific evidence before I believe
anything"
Dogbert: "No you don't"
Dilbert: "Yes I do"
Dogbert: "No, You only think you do. But if fact you rely on media
reports that scientific evidence exists. You don't actually see the
evidence yourself.
Dilbert: "I don't have time to read all the scientific studies myself"
Dogbert: "So you're not gullible, you're just busy"
Dilbert: "That's right"
The episode goes on to have Dogbert develop the 'Fact' that people
suffer from "Chronic Cubicle Syndrome" And then starts selling the cure.
On 5/23/2025 5:28 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Yes, there are exaggerated, alarmist statements here about school
lunches and such. It's a side effect of our relying on social media
and cable news for information. Social media is literally just rumors
and jokes. The content has factuality varying from 0% to 100%, but
nobody has enough time in their day to research each and every thing
they see, and I have zero faith in any claims that the crowd will sus
out the nonsense. Social media is just people talking to each other,
so anything seen there has exactly the same credibility as something
overheard at a cocktail party, and people need to start treating it
that way. All of the cable news channels are propaganda networks in
the business of selling advertising, and nobody should voluntarily
watch any of them.
I'm sorry Rory, the notion that the country and the world were having
a disaster in the last 4 years is also an exaggerated, alarmist statement.
I'm not going to say any more on this topic. It's become very
difficult to have any meaningful discussion anymore because the common
basis of fact people can agree on as a starting point has been eroded
to almost nothing.
-Adam
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*From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of rory
<[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2025 10:12 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scott Adams -Dilbert
Be serious guys. You have posted some ridiculous statements. No
child is starving in schools, fluoride is in every toothpaste today as
opposed to 50 years ago, and the guy you hate is bringing our country
and the world back from the disaster of the last 4 years. That's my
opinion. Now, how about we get back to technology instead of politics.
Let's debate the othe stuff on Facebook since we clearly aren't going
to agree.
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From: Nate Burke <[email protected]>
Date: 5/23/25 6:44 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scott Adams -Dilbert
Wait, your schools weren't like the trading pits at the Stock
exchange? "I've got an oreo and half a cinamon roll Anyone had a
capri sun"
On 5/23/2025 8:36 AM, Robert wrote:
Don't worry, the current administration has defunded all those
school lunch programs. So no bad lunches and no good lunches.
The kids have gone back to just starving.
On 5/23/25 6:18 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
i do remember when michelle destroyed the school lunch system,
giving beets to regular kids while hers ate gourmet 13 cheese
mac and cheese that led to massive school lunch waste and an
explosion of childhood obesity because kids threw the beets
away, came home starving and gorged on chips. I do remember
that intellectual move. know who else remembers, pepperidge
farms remembers. probably not the best example to use. But the
good byproduct of it was that kids, particularly from poor
families were so hungry that the ultimate outcome was pretty
much every school know has free lunches and the nations lunch
ladies revolted and got edible food back in the cafeterias. My
neighbor, Mrs Misses was a lunch director so I got the full
rundown on how that went down. It was crazy, it literally cost
school districts insane amounts of money in excess dumpster
fees due to the amount of waste her program caused
So technically, her program did work in the end, after it was
dismantled, plus as a side benefit, she completely boomed the
childhood diabetes market, the outcome of that is the price
controls on insulin. end of the day, the nation benefited
immensely from her abject failure. So I guess she really is an
intellectual superior and the lunch ladies were just anti
intellectuals. The kids, who refused to eat the garbage she
fed them definitely were anti intellectuals and if they had
just followed the science, their friends wouldnt have been fat
little diabetics
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 7:52 AM Darin Steffl
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There's nothing wrong with trying to make our food better
quality with fewer bad ingredients. The problem is RFK and
orange man believe and spread conspiracy theories. They're
trying to claim fluoride in water supplies is harmful to
us when it's so clearly not. Even dentists recommend it to
prevent cavities and tooth decay.
Google "fluoride in water safe" to review more about how
it benefits us.
They are anti-vax which will cause an increase in measles
cases like we've seen. It will spread to other things like
spikes in flu cases if people don't get flu shots. Who's
ready for polio to come back? I see videos on tiktok of
stay at home moms that aren't doing any child vaccinations
at all. They think their natural essential oils will
protect their kids from deadly disease.
Under this admin, there's a war on intellectualism. Anyone
that's smart is being labeled stupid and funding for
important research has been cut. Aid for overseas disease
prevention has been cut. The world and our country will
become more deadly and sick under our current admin as a
result.
Does anyone remember when Michelle Obama tried to address
childhood obesity and the conservatives cried about their
freedom being taken away? She did it the right way with no
conspiracy BS.
Google "Michelle Obama obesity" if you want to read about
her efforts.
On Fri, May 23, 2025, 12:43 AM Bill Prince
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was taking tamsulosin, but it really didn't work.
Ended up with a thing called TURP (you can look it up,
but it's basically a roto-rooter on your prostate).
You get a free biopsy with the procedure, and I was clear.
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/22/2025 7:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Just took a blood test, no results yet.
If I miss one day of tamsulosin I can’t piss well.
Reminds me of Tom Hanks in The Green Mile.
*From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
*Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2025 11:19 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scott Adams -Dilbert
My personal belief is that most men over 50 have
prostrate cancer, what matters is how aggressive
it is. For awhile the medical profession went
crazy with PSA tests. Based solely on a blood
test, they would offer you the choice of surgery
or radiation.
Bill is exactly correct. If you are diagnosed with
non aggressive prostrate cancer at age 75,
something else is likely to kill you first. Let’s
face it, we’re all going to die of SOMETHING. Or
maybe they just say “natural causes”. Go back far
enough and they just didn’t talk about cancer, it
was taboo, so someone died but it wasn’t cancer
because they wouldn’t say the word.
It’s like the supposed “epidemic” of autism. More
like better and earlier diagnosis.
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of
*Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2025 11:36 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scott Adams -Dilbert
Certain cancer rates for younger folks are up
(e.g. colon cancer). That one's a mystery.
However, longer life expectancy increases the odds
of cancer later in life too.
There is also better screening, so that is an
unknown in terms of what the actual "rate" is.
We had a friend who was diagnosed with prostate
cancer when he was around 75. Doc told us, the
prostate cancer was not going to kill him. Sure
enough, he died almost 20 years later at the ripe
old age of 94, and no, the prostate cancer is not
what got him in the end.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/22/2025 8:56 AM, Dev wrote:
Is it just me or does it seem like cancer
rates are rising? You’d think with enough
smart people in enough rooms, we’d have solved
this by now.
On May 22, 2025, at 6:24 AM, Cameron Crum
<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
I know I'm not the only Dilbert fan in the
group, but this is kind of sad.
Scott Adams, the creator of the "Dilbert"
comic strip, announced on May 19, 2025,
that he has metastatic prostate cancer
that has spread to his bones. He stated
that he expects to live only "months" and
"sometime this summer," and that he is in
constant, "intolerable" pain, requiring a
walker to move around.
Adams revealed his diagnosis on his
YouTube show, "Real Coffee With Scott
Adams," after former President Joe Biden's
office announced that Biden also had
prostate cancer. Adams said he decided to
share his own health news to "slide under"
Biden's announcement and deflect some of
the public attention. He also mentioned
that he had been keeping his diagnosis
private to avoid becoming "just the dying
cancer guy."
He stated that he has had time to process
the diagnosis, get his affairs in order,
and say his goodbyes. As a California
resident, he also referred to the state's
End of Life Option Act as "an option."
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