I don't know about you, but a lot, possibly a majority of the people I
went to college with smoked pot (not me, of course), so equating
pot-smoking and uneducated as the same kind of people sounds like an
oxymoron to me.
Further, both my SO and my families were permanently scarred by
"organized religion", so being "un-churched" sounds like a positive
attribute. I somewhat consider organized religion a type of fascism.
Maybe Utah really is an alternate universe?
bp
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On 9/18/2025 10:36 AM, [email protected] wrote:
If you are a slave of the welfare state, you are certainly to fall
into the "uneducated, pot smoking, un churched, [...] and poor as
dirt" category. Democrats know what they are doing…
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2025 11:29 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix,
dopamine you know)
I sometimes wonder if they're just doing things to get people talking
about something besides Epstein. If so, it's working.
I live in the den of evil over here in NY, and I too have never
encountered anyone who called themselves "Antifa". In contrast to
Chuck's statement, "uneducated, pot smoking, un churched, [...] and
poor as dirt" sounds like at least half of our MAGA people.
I wonder: NY's electoral votes haven't gone to a Republican since
1984. Utah's haven't gone to a Democrat since 1964. Maybe the poor
and disaffected are drawn to the opposition party in whatever state
they're in. I'll look up statistics later tonight.... if I remember
to. If that's not true then maybe Chuck and I are each putting our
personal bias on display.
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*From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof
<[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2025 1:09 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix,
dopamine you know)
Maybe they are saying this in an ironic or humorous way. Like if
grumpy old people are terrorists, I must be a terrorist.
Since antifa (upper or lower case a?) is a leaderless and
decentralized movement, not sure it could be declared an organization,
terrorist or otherwise. Kind of like idiots or assholes or for that
matter good samaritans, they exist, but are they organized? Can you
raid their clubhouse and imprison their leaders? Seems we are trying
to categorize people who disagree with us as an organization, no doubt
funded by George Soros (but not Elon Musk or Peter Thiel).
*From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2025 11:53 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix,
dopamine you know)
Real life people, relatives, former employees etc.
It is coming up due to Trumps trying to declar antifa to be a
terrorist organization. Some of these people are saying they must be
terrorists now.
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>_> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2025 10:46 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>_>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix,
dopamine you know)
Is your sphere of influence real life people you know, or online
stuff? I honestly have never had a single person IRL mention Antifa,
much less belong to such an organization. And Utah seems an unlikely
place to have Antifa cells.
But Howard from Big Bang Theory reminds us you don’t need to
experience something to know you want it:
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o>_
Maybe you mean nihilism and not literally Antifa. There seems to be a
bumper crop of disaffected nihilists these days. Not sure that fits
neatly into a left/right political narrative. More like there will
always be people who think the world has screwed them over and want to
burn the whole thing down.
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>_> *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>_
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2025 11:16 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>_>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix,
dopamine you know)
Odd that the majority of the people in my sphere of influence that are
espousing the goodness of antifa are all uniformly: uneducated, pot
smoking, un churched, and in many cases with minor criminal records,
but all of them are as poor as dirt it seems. Poverty is what drove
the Russian revolution. Perhaps that is the driver here.
I just cannot get behind the ideology. This is what Wikipedia says:
*I**_deology
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_ideologies>_*
_Anti-fascism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism>_
_Anti-authoritarianism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-authoritarianism>_
_Anti-capitalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-capitalism>_
_Anti-statism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-statism>_
_Anti-Trumpism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump>_
_Anarchism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism>_
_Socialism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism>_
_Communism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism>_
*_Political position <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum>_*
_Left-wing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics>_
*Major actions*
_Direct action <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action>_
_Community organizing
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing>_
_Mutual aid <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_aid>_
_Harassment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment>_
_Digital activism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_activism>_
_Doxing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing>_
_Picketing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing>_
_Political violence <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_violence>_
_Protest marching <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_march>_
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