Five people were charged for the Minneapolis police station fire during BLM riots.
Ivan Harrison Hunter - An alt-right a--hole who just wanted to stir up trouble https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd The other 4 I can't easily find any actual reference to their politics. Maybe they were Antifa, or maybe they were just angry. I have not read the court documents. I'd wager that if I do, I'll find that both the "Antifa did it" or the "alt right instigators did it" stories have elements of truth in them, but that both stories have been stripped of all nuance and circumstance. Rather than talk about the messy and complicated reality, people just cherry pick the pieces of the story that support what they already believe. When I dig deep into a topic that's usually what I find. Occasionally, I find a total bullshit sandwich, but this one doesn't quite smell like it. It seems more like two versions of events that are both partially true. I'll live with my assumption in this case. Being thorough on a topic is very time consuming and I don't have the energy to spend on this one. -Adam ________________________________ From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 5:20 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix, dopamine you know) All the maskef antifas burning police stations proclamed they were antifa. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2025, at 2:59 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: I guess I don't see anyone from Antifa telling comics that they have to get off the air. Actually I have not heard ONE single person declare themselves as antifa, but plenty of MAGA saying that someone was antifa because they didn't like the words coming out of their mouths. And then actually striking out against that person. Physically or politically... On 9/18/25 1:29 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: When Antifa says fascism, they just mean anything not on the extreme left. If they disagree with you, you are a fascist. There is no relevance to actual fascism like you think about from WW2, and in fact most of their "actions" are far closer to that fascism than anything the "right" is doing. On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 11:56 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What a lot of people fail to understand is that there is no "antifa" organization. It's more of a philosophy (IMO). Sure, a lot of marginalized people probably ascribe to the notion of antifa. However, I would say that the majority of Americans are against the idea of fascism. Tell me you're in favor of fascism. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/18/2025 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Is your sphere of influence real life people you know, or online stuff? I honestly have never had a single person IRL mention Antifa, much less belong to such an organization. And Utah seems an unlikely place to have Antifa cells. But Howard from Big Bang Theory reminds us you don’t need to experience something to know you want it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o Maybe you mean nihilism and not literally Antifa. There seems to be a bumper crop of disaffected nihilists these days. Not sure that fits neatly into a left/right political narrative. More like there will always be people who think the world has screwed them over and want to burn the whole thing down. From: AF <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 11:16 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix, dopamine you know) Odd that the majority of the people in my sphere of influence that are espousing the goodness of antifa are all uniformly: uneducated, pot smoking, un churched, and in many cases with minor criminal records, but all of them are as poor as dirt it seems. Poverty is what drove the Russian revolution. Perhaps that is the driver here. I just cannot get behind the ideology. 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