In Ohio, Starlink got locations that I have with fiber available.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 12:42 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> In are area, Starlink only got crap that was difficult or impossible to
> serve via a normal business case.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 10:26 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] how will BEAD subsidize LEO?
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> Mark was probably on target when he said bidding on BEAD was a defensive
> move for the LEO guys.  They don’t want the money so much as they don’t
> want subsidized competition.  They don’t want you to get it.
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> You didn’t necessarily lose those locations, you’ll just have to do them
> with 100% your own money rather than 75%.  Starlink didn’t necessarily get
> those customers, and while they prevented you from getting BEAD money for
> fiber, they also prevented everyone else from getting BEAD money for
> fiber.  So there still may be an opportunity for you.
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> Now starts the bidding war for subcontract labor and duct and fiber and
> handholes and splice cases.  Maybe jump on those areas right now, before
> the BEAD funds start flowing?
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 11:13 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] how will BEAD subsidize LEO?
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> >Because there was a strong weighting for fiber as it is better than LEO
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> Well that's just wrong.  I'm doing fiber at $4000 and lost half my
> locations to Starlink at $600.
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> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 11:48 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Because there was a strong weighting for fiber as it is better than LEO.
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> So unless it was over $10k-$15k per location it went to LEO.
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> Best Regards,
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> Chuck McCown
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> McCown Technology Corporation
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> 8401 N Commerce Drive
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> Lake Point, Utah 84074
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> 801-250-9503 Office
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> www.microtrench-blades.com
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> www.mccowntech.com
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> www.terabitnetworks.com
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 9:13 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] how will BEAD subsidize LEO?
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> I'm still confused as to how anywhere got funded for fiber if LEO is
> available. According the rules, the per location cost was the most
> important factor. Yet there are some fiber projects that evidently beat out
> LEO.
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> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 9:37 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
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> It's a definite win for taxpayers either way
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> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 7:37 AM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:
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> In the big picture do you think Amazon or Starlink really care if they
> actually get paid?    The money is a drop in the bucket for a worldwide LEO
> system.   It’s more risk to them having fiber funded to all of these
> locations.   This feels more like a defensive play than anything.   If they
> get some government money out of it (in their view) it’s great, and if they
> don’t and can keep fiber out, they get money anyway.     For the LEO
> providers this is a win, win, or win big.
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> If they have to forfeit some money in the end, do they really care?
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> Mark
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> On Oct 2, 2025, at 12:41 PM, Jesse DuPont <[email protected]>
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> The other challenge for LEO is they don't get to reduce their Letter of
> Credit or Bond amounts until they have subscribers that meet milestones
> (not just having covered BSLs, but actual subscribers). So they'll be
> motivated to get people to sign up, whatever that looks like.
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